Ichigo's Hollow a Vasto Lorde???

[Guardian Outlaw]

Ichigo may not be a Vasto Lorde but he is almost as strong as one..... I wonder if squad zero is as strong as the Vasto Lorde

[Masamune-sarotobi]

thats an interesting idea
should we be discussing this instead

[Atanvarno]

It is impossible for Ichigo's inner hollow to be a Vasto Lord.

Vasto Lord are a type of Menos. All menos are conglomerations of several hundred hollow, and therefore several hundred souls.

Ichigo, and his hollow, have only one soul.

Therefore, Ichigo's hollow is not a Vasto Lord.

It is, however, entirely possible and probable that he is as strong or stronger than a Vasto Lord.

[Amaterasu]

Originally Posted by Atanvarno

It is impossible for Ichigo's inner hollow to be a Vasto Lord.

Vasto Lord are a type of Menos. All menos are conglomerations of several hundred hollow, and therefore several hundred souls.

Ichigo, and his hollow, have only one soul.

Therefore, Ichigo's hollow is not a Vasto Lord.

It is, however, entirely possible and probable that he is as strong or stronger than a Vasto Lord.

Yeah, but since Ichigo is both hollow and shinigami, he both "produces" and consumes spiritual particles (which is what the eaten souls are comprised of), practically boosting his strength the more he uses it... I would guess.

[Whewt22]

Yep esentially he could obtain vasto under these circumstances. His hollow isn't forced to eat hollows, he obtains his substanance and power boosts elsewhere. An alternante route to the same outcome.

His appearance change would also support his ability to evolve.

[super yang]

^^ vasto-bankai-ressurection ftw!

[Masamune-sarotobi]

Originally Posted by Whewt22

Yep esentially he could obtain vasto under these circumstances. His hollow isn't forced to eat hollows, he obtains his substanance and power boosts elsewhere. An alternante route to the same outcome.

His appearance change would also support his ability to evolve.

i think the change was due to the environment, and the fact he was in HM.
so you heve the spirit particles in Hm as well as those of all the hollow that we have seen ichigo kill in HM. but having the same power as a vasto, i don't think so, although i don't think he is that far off.

[Suiton:Katon:Doton]

Originally Posted by Atanvarno

It is impossible for Ichigo's inner hollow to be a Vasto Lord.

Vasto Lord are a type of Menos. All menos are conglomerations of several hundred hollow, and therefore several hundred souls.

Ichigo, and his hollow, have only one soul.

Therefore, Ichigo's hollow is not a Vasto Lord.

It is, however, entirely possible and probable that he is as strong or stronger than a Vasto Lord.

First of ichigo's hollow isn't the regular hollow, and we know that...it evolves on it's own and everything so he isn't actually a vasto. Like you said he is as strong as or probably stronger than vasto since his actual potential is still unknown.

[Orochimaru-basher]

Have we ever considered that this has something to do with ichigo's father? Obviously because Ichigo is the main character, so he has to be powerful, but theres been no backstory on what role ichigo's father has In soul society. Maybe HE is the king....

Anyways, I do agree on the fact that his hollow form was obtained due to the route he reclaimed his powers, but maybe this is the difference. instead of the vaizard, who were experemented on by aizen and then saved by the hougyoko (or whatever). Urahara may have had more of a part in it than he lets on.

Another question is how the hell is he going to go to that form again when he needs to? Can he do it like the mask? or is he gonna get his heart blown out again just to transform! Speaking of that, isn't that how he got his shinigami powers in the first place by stabbing his heart by rukias sword? Coincidence?

[toad moad]

ichigo's hollow has to be as strong as a vasto. he straight owned ulquiorra when he was in that form. like as soon as he became that ulquiorra didnt even touch him.