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Old 06-25-2008, 07:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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For sure, you can't show Kisuke anything more than once. Hinted at by him learning about bala, and a few minutes later, announcing he'll never get hit with another one.
Aizen most likely has another thing coming to him, if he decides to duke it out with Kisuke.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:35 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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My thoughts as for the hole Urahara tossed Ichigo down into was to give him something to strive for instead of just sitting around watching his chain get eaten away. By telling him that he needed to make it out to become a shinigami he mentally prepared himself (prolly without realizing it) to resist turning into a hollow and as you said make a temporary fix to subdue his inner hollow.
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But They Are Already Fixed That Problem By Letting Ichigo Defeat His Inner Hollow Thus Subdueing It, But For How Long Ø.o
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But They Are Already Fixed That Problem By Letting Ichigo Defeat His Inner Hollow Thus Subdueing It, But For How Long Ø.o
lol... summin lik dat ^6...... ha
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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One thing I was thinking about, is if the Espada have been around for so long and Aizen just got the hogyoku. He must of had his own method of performing the process. Its said that hollow removing their own masks, are almost always incomplete a.k.a the Grand Fissher..

Also the shinigami (Vizard) were infected which turned them into hollows.
Were the hollows infected with something that turned them into shinigami? Where the hell did this shinigami side come from? Is it just a coincidence, that the hollows he used it on, could of become a shinigami if it hadn't of become a hollow?
How can he dissolve the barrier between a shinigami and hollow, if their just hollows, not every soul has the potential of becomeing a shinigami. How does just removing their masks give them the ability to use a zanpaktou?


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ill take a guess.

it stands to reason that only souls with enough reiatsu to become shinigami, would have the power to rip off their own mask, which is a pretty difficult thing apparently, we saw orihime's brother try to fight the hollow taking him over, and it was still a fresh transformation. its probably alot harder after youve lived as a hollow for a long time, the will to fight it is gone.

those hollow, who are almost certainly menos, have the knowledge of hundreds of hollows. hollows who may have devoured shinigami in their lifetimes. if any one of those hollow had any knowledge of how a shinigami talks to their zanpakuto in battle, or how the zanpakuto is part of the shinigami's soul, they may have tried to talk to their own zanpakuto within them.

they would have an inner struggle with their zanpakuto, like ichigo did with zangetsu, and somehow or another, boom, zanpakuto manifests itself.

in essence, a hollow is a regular soul, with the same potential to become a shinigami as any soul in SS, but the evil or whatever devours them and takes control through their mask or whatever. so if a hollow ever became a "complete" arrancar, they would just be a normal, non-hollowized soul. menos class hollows would be an exception, because they arent single souls, but a combination of lots of souls.

so basically imo, an arrancar is a hollowized soul, thats fought off the control of the "evil hollowness" (im coining that term, its official now, E.H. if you will)
enough to try to talk to their inner zanpakuto, just like any soul in SS would. a "complete" arrancar would be completely unhollowized, and thus a shinigami, but since these hollows cant get rid of their masks, their E.H., completely, they have hollow like sword releases, and still use cero and stuff.

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"so basically imo, an arrancar is a hollowized soul, thats fought off the control of the "evil hollowness" (im coining that term, its official now, E.H. if you will)"

Makes all the sense in the world, thanks.
So we can say, that the souls fought off their hollow side, and basically became a new soul but with the strength and abilites they had as a hollow. With that spiritual pressure and strength, they were able to manafest a zanpaktou. ( Transformation caused by the hogyoku)
Maybe, when they conquered their hollow side (hogyoku did it for them), it sealed it away in their zanpaktou, kinda like the Vizard sealed it away in a mask. Hinted at by taking their previous form once they release their zanpaktou.

Wow typing that, made alot of things make sense. I think we've established something their not going to explain for another 10 or some chapters.
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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rofl, this confused the hell out of me, i started reading the quotes and was like, "wait, what thread is this?"
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:17 AM   #27 (permalink)
 
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I guess I should post the question were anwsering too? lol
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I guess I should post the question were anwsering too? lol
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oh no, i think its understandable the way it is, i was just confused cuz i thought that stuff got said on another thread lol
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The most thorough and well thought out theory I've seen thus far on the boards. Kudos.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:32 AM   #30 (permalink)
 
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Yea, we thought so too!
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