Bleach Theories

[Balling like a fool]

Originally Posted by vezryl

I'd imagine so. To be honest I think one has to think of him as having multiple personality disorder, he maintains the same physical being except for the eyes and mask so he is still a vaizard, but the dominant personality changes.

when ichigo tries to overcome his inner hollow with the vaizards, he starts to make an outward transformation. if he made that transformation, but still used ichigo's shinigami powers (which he would, hollow ichigo used zangetsu to fight) you could hardly call him a vaizard. he would be an arrancar, no? if this is true, it stands to reason that if the inner shinigami within an arrancar took over, it could become a vaizard? nel? possibly grimmjow?

[vezryl]

Hmmm I believe it'd depend on the circumstance

At the point where Ichigo was fighting his hollow among the vizards it was trying to get him out of the picture completely, it wanted to kill him and have him gone for good. After that we don't know, because we've never seen, presumably since the hollow is a part of ichigo it would still have the zanpakuto and could be considered an arrancar, but not in the same sense we think of the espada as arrancars.

However when it merely takes over his body to fight and Ichigo's original personality is still in tact but being shoved to the back of the line, I believe my previous statement would still be true

[Balling like a fool]

Originally Posted by vezryl

Hmmm I believe it'd depend on the circumstance

At the point where Ichigo was fighting his hollow among the vizards it was trying to get him out of the picture completely, it wanted to kill him and have him gone for good. After that we don't know, because we've never seen, presumably since the hollow is a part of ichigo it would still have the zanpakuto and could be considered an arrancar, but not in the same sense we think of the espada as arrancars.

However when it merely takes over his body to fight and Ichigo's original personality is still in tact but being shoved to the back of the line, I believe my previous statement would still be true

i dont consider those little things "takeovers," so much as his inner hollow temporarily leaking out.

[Whewt22]

Whewh went to get a drink, what did I miss. Hmm

[vezryl]

Temporary or no, when something controls your body to the point where it can move you, and even speak through your mouth, it has taken over

[Whewt22]

I don't know how to respond, rofl. All I can say, he would be an arrancar in theory, but not in practice.
I have so many thoughts, but I can't put them into words their so cluttered.
What side effects would an arancars inner shinigami take upon the victim?

Would there even be an inner shinigami?
The shinigamis hollows, had a conscious hollow capable of thinking on its own in them. Whereas the hollows according to our theory, defeated their "evil side" sealing it in a zanpaktou. So basically, their in essence the same thing as the Vizard, shinigami able of releasing hollow abilities.

Im burned out on bleach, everything running together, taking a break. Be back in a few.

I just thought of something. I think that Kaien dude that looks like Ichigo is probably his brother. Its verry possible seein as how Ichigos dad was a soul reaper. Then that would make Ganju and Kūkaku his brother and sister too. Isshin probably had some kids in SS and then bounced out on em or somthin.

[SynergY]

Hey grandmaster theorists Whewt and Balling, what do you think of this? When Uruahara first met Ichigo and saw his great potential, Uruhara immediately tried forming Ichigo into the ultimate "supersoldier" to fight against Aizen because he is the only other person (besides the Vizards) who knew what Aizen was plotting. That's all I have and if it's legit you guys can branch off.

[vezryl]

Originally Posted by Guest

I just thought of something. I think that Kaien dude that looks like Ichigo is probably his brother. Its verry possible seein as how Ichigos dad was a soul reaper. Then that would make Ganju and Kūkaku his brother and sister too. Isshin probably had some kids in SS and then bounced out on em or somthin.

Nope. Just nope. If that were true then dont you think that perhaps the whole Shiba family would now be tearing Isshin to shreds being that they now have a source of knowledge that he's alive and well in the real world.

Also dont you think that kind of thing comes up in conversation, yknow like "Your dad knocked my mother up and walked out. Whats up with that?" at the very least.

They just resemble each other, there's a couple o' billion people in the world, and when you add everyone who ever died to that number it wasnt unlikely.

[Balling like a fool]

Originally Posted by SynergY

Hey grandmaster theorists Whewt and Balling, what do you think of this? When Uruahara first met Ichigo and saw his great potential, Uruhara immediately tried forming Ichigo into the ultimate "supersoldier" to fight against Aizen because he is the only other person (besides the Vizards) who knew what Aizen was plotting. That's all I have and if it's legit you guys can branch off.

but urahara didnt know what Aizen was plotting, he knew Aizen was plotting something, but who knows what. i dont know how to branch off anyway, i think that thought is pretty much complete lol.