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Old 08-09-2012   #1881 (permalink)
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Well isnt it kind of the point that not just anybody can stop everybody? Otherwise there's not as much significance in a primary characters progression. Could there be a little more development of other characters in lieu of progressing the main storyline to show how 10 other characters are right behind the main protagonist? Sure there can.

Naruto can be as endless as OP etc. to do that. I just dont think that all characters are created relatively equal which seems more realistic cause in life some people excel more than others even when all sides are working hard. At least with Naruto becoming so powerful it makes some sense because we've seen the work. Ichigo's Saiyan like powerups btw battles, and timely powerups from his hollow when losing in others feels cheaper in comparison to me.

I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion or anything b/c it has merit and I'm just voicing mine as well. Its just that story wise we haven't seen the continuity problems and trolling in Naruto that we have in Bleach.
Saiyan power ups often made more sense than Ichigo's. They trained pretty hard. The situation in the battle just pushed them over the top. At least when they were almost killed or something in battle that had to have someone else revive them before they could power up. Ichigo coming back from the dead under his own power?
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May opinion may have changed a little since I made this thread. I'm not gonna say which I consider better out of Bleach and OP, but I'm sure that Naruto is my least favorite. Making Naruto into god-mode and leaving a lot of important characters to be background fodder makes it hard for me to enjoy it.

Though if Sakura died, I might place it above Bleach.
Bleach does pretty much the same thing. The other human characters are fodder and only Ichigo and the captains do anything important. Ichigo also goes god mode.
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May opinion may have changed a little since I made this thread. I'm not gonna say which I consider better out of Bleach and OP, but I'm sure that Naruto is my least favorite. Making Naruto into god-mode and leaving a lot of important characters to be background fodder makes it hard for me to enjoy it.

Though if Sakura died, I might place it above Bleach.
though I respect your opinion that was the whole point of the story... he starts as a weakling that nobody believes in and wins matches by luck and sheer determination. Now he was given his moment to shine properly. As for sakura dying
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Sakura can go die.
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Saiyan power ups often made more sense than Ichigo's. They trained pretty hard. The situation in the battle just pushed them over the top. At least when they were almost killed or something in battle that had to have someone else revive them before they could power up. Ichigo coming back from the dead under his own power?
Yeah which as you said Ichigo's saiyan powerups were much worse for all you described. When you go back and look at all the training the main four or five did and understanding their powerups had to do with genetics, it didnt feel that cheap at all. Ichigo's crap like many things in Bleach are left unsubstantiated for or unexplained in general.

Edit: Also irregardless of wishes later the bad guys did kill good guys.
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Though if Sakura died, I might place it above Bleach.
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Bleach is number one for me. Naruto is second and One Piece is last. Artwork is a huge factor for me.
Apparently, the plot isn't.
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bleach have dropped out from top 3 in manga sales long time ago (and same with anime fairy tail have taken its place in big 3)

it didint even make it to top 10 on this year's first half manga sales (only taking count on japanese manga sales)

in my option bleach downfall started after aizen left soul society character development simply stopped for too many characters at that point.

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The Big 3 is the title given to One Piece, Bleach, and Naruto. No matter if Bleach had the worst manga sales of the year, it will still be part of the Big 3.
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Apparently, the plot isn't.
One Piece's way too slow, has mediocre artwork and way too much haste-scripted dialogue, of which saturates every page.

Bleach is way too slow but has great artwork. Instead of having ridiculous amounts of subpar dialogue, it only has a fraction of what OP has.

They're both flawed, but it's all opinion.

At this particular point in time and space, I am looking more forward to the next Bleach chapter than the next OP chapter.
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