Bleach Manga Discussion #2: OMFG, BACKSTORY!

[ILOVEANIMEGUYS]

I just wanna jump in on yal talking about comics and say i also love deadpool! He is just epic! Def one of my favorite comics!

[theOrator]

ILAG!!! What's up!

[ILOVEANIMEGUYS]

Hello orator!!!! *glmops*

[CigaretteSmoker]

Originally Posted by theOrator

Anywho, I'm still confused as to how you feel that you're opinion of Kira's character is not for the reason of being "just cause". You've already admitted that you were practically joking with your comment regarding his hairstyle, but yet you seem to still expect me to take it seriously. I'm just wondering if you could make up your mind about it? Either it was made in jest or you seriously meant it. As for your 2nd reason, that too also seems to be contradictory. Think about this logically, you're basically saying that because we're discussing Kira's particular character, that any other characters don't matter by comparison because they're not the ones we're discussing.

The problem I have with that, is that reasoning doesn't hold up because you're making comparisons between Kira and random hollow #4. So why is it okay for you to make character comparisons but it's not okay for me? Another flaw is, as I pointed out, those two characters have virtually nothing in common in order to compare. One was around for only 2 episodes, the other has been actively involved in the series since SS arc. To say that the latter is just as useless as the former is not only illogical, it also unreasonable. And if something does not follow any line of logic, then I tend to view it as without merit. It only makes sense that if you're gonna make comparisons, then it should be between characters who have similar resumes, hence why I brought up Renji.

As I stated, it's cool if you don't like/don't care about Kira's character, I'm certainly not saying you have to. But I am saying at least be logical about the reasons.

It was a joke 'cause it wasn't meant to be taken as a serious reason by you guys. Even though I really hate the way he looks I could ignore it if the character was well made, but in this case Kira isn't so I might as well take it all out and mention even the stupid looks. His annoying character emphasizes everything that's bad about him, so I ended up hating the hair more than I would usually with a silly looking character. I ended up loving Kenpachi even though he has ridicolously stupid hair and I even liked Hacchi and that guy has a pink turd on his head.

I don't remember what you said about the the second point. But I think it was something along the lines of ''seeing you think Kira is useless and you're happy he's dead we should kill all the other useless characters'' and that's fine with me. Kill them off anytime, but I was really specific on Kira that time and if I remember correctly you said that Kira was still to be proven useless while I was firm on believing that he was totally worthless, before, now and in future.

The Hollow/Kira segment wasn't there for them to be compared as characters in any way, it was just to accentuate how much I cared for his death and that care was the same amount I had for that Hollow when he died.

When he was blasted I had the same reaction to when this guy died:

Spoiler

Who the hell is that?
Excatly my point.

It's just a funny way to say ''I don't give two shits about Kira''.

I might've forgotten or remembered something wrong. It's 8 am and I'm kinda tired.
edit: glad we're clear atleast

[0ldman]

I got i query on final battle between ichigo & aizen which i still confused. Was it ichigo mugen attack that defeated aizen or was it urahara secret kido that got aizen? This is one thing i cant figure it out.

[Mephisto]

Urahara had fired a secret kido into Aizen before he achieved complete transformation, which ended up being a seal.

SS needs to lose this battle, otherwise we won't see the RG, Aizen's return etc.

[0ldman]

so it was urahara that defeated aizen and ichigo helped him

[theOrator]

Yes, as Urahara states that Aizen needed to be weakened to a certain point in order for the kido to take effect. That's where Ichigo's Mugetsu came into play.

[Mreaper]

Well, I'd simply put it down to a team effort.
Ichigo won the battle, but Urahara ended the war.

[Beedol]

Originally Posted by vegetto741

Awesome chapter. I don't mind Kira being dead as long as it isn't Renji.

I do like that chick quincy, keep them coming tite.

Which chick quincy are you talking about? The one with the heart belt or the one with needles sticking out of her face?

Originally Posted by kannazuki

The best shunpoers had better put it to good use. That and some form of powerful, speedy attack (like Bya's shikai) would be best. Vaizard speed is good. Soi Fon's squad might be able to do sneaky counter-attacks. Kyouraku might be able to adapt his games somehow? Depending on the nature of their attacks and absorption abilities, Ukitake's shikai could be very useful. Foxy face (lol I forgot his name) and his giganto-attack are slow and useless though. Also, squad 13 has to be able to conceive of some way for everyone to *not* be absorbed, or to make some form of defensive items/shields that can't be, at the very least.

Meanwhile, little did all the shinigami know that Kisuke and Yoruichi were working in the background to get their bankai back, and they didn't have to go join that cult that turns your friends and family against you...

1. Foxy face = Kommamura Saijin. Yeah, Kommamura isn't suited at all to fight in this war.
2. What do you mean?

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

I have no idea how Toshiro of all people got so popular. He's only really taken out nobodies.

Well, personally I find his abilities cool. I like both ice as an elemental and dragons are generally very cool and Hitsugaya has both. Then I also like his personality, he can be quite funny. I don't like the hubris part but it doesn't annoy me either.

Originally Posted by kannazuki

Me too... He may be cute but he's also quite full of himself. He might be the only recurring character whose hubris irritates me more than Byakuya's.

btw I forgot him in my little round up. I suspect he'd be as useless as Foxy face.

Actually Hitsugaya should be more useful then Kommamura. For example, he is not as slow as Kommamura.

Originally Posted by Urary

He'll be like Rakan and as he's being absorbed, will deliver a powerful blow that will be heard throughout SS and increase everyone's morale

Who is Rakan?

Originally Posted by Kuraikage

If Kubo has any sense he'll make the moe Sternritter headstrong, boisterous and overly perverted... Then I'd like to see her troll and trash Hitsugaya

It's not even been a week and that page already lists Kira's death... or was it you that edited it in?

Lol, that would be quite interesting and I can see her getting to fight Hitsugaya, though if she would similiar to what you said then I think her fighting Kyoraku might also be quite funny.

Originally Posted by theOrator

Okay, either you're trolling, in which case lol good one. But if you're actually being serious, then I gotta say this is the weakest argument for character basis I've ever had the misfortune to come across, and I've been involved in a great deal of arguments on AC. So let me get this straight, you're seriously comparing a character who's had minor to intermediate involvement throughout the majority of the series, to some random hollow who appeared in 1, maybe 2 episodes? Oh I hope you're kidding, cause if that is the case then you really have no point.

Alright, I'll give you the hair thing, Tite could've been a little more stylish with his hair style, but then again, how many characters in this series actually have immaculately styled hair? If that's you're basis for getting rid of a character than both Kisuke and Ichigo should've died a long time ago (permanently in Ichigo's case). And if you're basing it on uselessness, which I would say it's way too early in this arc to have written Kira off as useless, then by that logic Renji should've died back in HM.

You do realize that his doctor is Unohana don't you? And I'm confused, hasn't Hitsugaya only stabbed her once?

Just for your information: that hollow was the first hollow to appear and also the first hollow Ichigo saw, it was killed by Rukia when Ichigo first met her in the middle of episode 1. Btw that hollow had around 2 minutes screen time.

Anyway, good chapter. I wonder what the two third seats glances at each other meant. I got to say that Yammamoto got a good view of SS now that the wall in his office is gone, also he looks epic as he stands overlooking SS in that page. I wonder why they didn't have a fourth seat among the seated officers that were with Kira, it felt kind of random. Kira supposedly getting killed was a bit surprising but he is one of the vice captains I like the least so I don't really care so much if he dies. I like the names of the seated officers shikai, though I wish we got to see what they looked like. We got too see a bit of what Rikku's and Asuka's looked like but that's it. Rikku's Shikai looks a bit cool. The Stern Ritters seems to be a large group since they said at the end of the chapter that there were enemy reaitsu at least at 16 places. I am looking forward to the next chapter.

Btw, I just realised that the vandenreich Bankai sealing tech is not just to make them seem stronger, it also allows Tite to avoid introducing any new Bankais.