The football(soccer) Thread

[Hero]

Lol, it took me a while it figure out you guys were talking about soccer.

[Anaztazioch]

Kluivert is "over" with. Pritty much as Davids and Seedorf. Age took their toll on them.
Wish Raul would recive as mercifull age toll as those netherlandish :/


Anyway - my favorite team since im interested in club football -> check my sig and guess

My favorite player of all time -> Luis Fillipe Madeira Caeiro Figo. Maradona on second place, as i never seen him "live action" only on some records.
My favorite player today -> check my signature. Sad Robinho was taking his spot in the team for so long.

Respected players:
Leo Messi - Kid carries the burden of Blaugrana, even when they had E2, R10 and Deco.
Kun Aguero - outstanding
Łukasz Podolski - Guy brough the 3rd place medal of World Cup 2006 and left it in his home in Poland.


Hated players:
Daniel Alves - Nothing but fauls and acting/faking being fauled. Once referees will stop getting tricked by his acting, he will be as "good" as Ronaldinho was in his last year in Barcelona
Ronaldinho - As said above, once referees stop getting tricked by him falling down for no reason, he became shadow of what he was.
Robinho - lets do some uncreative and useless tricks on the pitch adn than ***** when coach will tell me to start a match from the bench. He would be better selling fastfood on the street than playing football, be it for Real Madrid or Manchester City.

Worst Coach i know of:
Bernd Schuster. Reason ?
1) Keeping Raul in starting 11 when hes totally not fit
2) Does not understand the meaning "we dont have right wing player, and left wing with Robben is barelly a wing at all"
3) Making substitutions usually 15 minutes before the final wistle... What do the new guys can do in 15 minutes ? Ow well there is one guy that in 1,5 year gave 10 assists and 12 or 13 goals, each assist/goal was crutial for victory leading RM for 30th, 31st La Liga cup, Super Copa de Espana and Trofeo Santiago Bernabeu, and that guy usually played from 75th minute substitutin... Robinho or Beckham. Well Capello was giving him more time, as with Italian coach he was going in in 65th minute avarage.
4) Rotations - they are so often, i allways see same attack line, same midfield line, same defencive line and same goalkeeper every game, unless there are some injuries of suspensions.
5) I love how pissed off at his players he is when they are playing with outsdanding performance, beating Villareal 5:0, Valencia 4:1, and Valencia 4:3 shooting 3 goals when playing with 9 players

[Luffy Vs Naruto]

Originally Posted by Anaztazioch

Kluivert is "over" with. Pritty much as Davids and Seedorf. Age took their toll on them.
Wish Raul would recive as mercifull age toll as those netherlandish :/


Anyway - my favorite team since im interested in club football -> check my sig and guess

My favorite player of all time -> Luis Fillipe Madeira Caeiro Figo. Maradona on second place, as i never seen him "live action" only on some records.
My favorite player today -> check my signature. Sad Robinho was taking his spot in the team for so long.

Respected players:
Leo Messi - Kid carries the burden of Blaugrana, even when they had E2, R10 and Deco.
Kun Aguero - outstanding
Łukasz Podolski - Guy brough the 3rd place medal of World Cup 2006 and left it in his home in Poland.


Hated players:
Daniel Alves - Nothing but fauls and acting/faking being fauled. Once referees will stop getting tricked by his acting, he will be as "good" as Ronaldinho was in his last year in Barcelona
Ronaldinho - As said above, once referees stop getting tricked by him falling down for no reason, he became shadow of what he was.
Robinho - lets do some uncreative and useless tricks on the pitch adn than ***** when coach will tell me to start a match from the bench. He would be better selling fastfood on the street than playing football, be it for Real Madrid or Manchester City.

Worst Coach i know of:
Bernd Schuster. Reason ?
1) Keeping Raul in starting 11 when hes totally not fit
2) Does not understand the meaning "we dont have right wing player, and left wing with Robben is barelly a wing at all"
3) Making substitutions usually 15 minutes before the final wistle... What do the new guys can do in 15 minutes ? Ow well there is one guy that in 1,5 year gave 10 assists and 12 or 13 goals, each assist/goal was crutial for victory leading RM for 30th, 31st La Liga cup, Super Copa de Espana and Trofeo Santiago Bernabeu, and that guy usually played from 75th minute substitutin... Robinho or Beckham. Well Capello was giving him more time, as with Italian coach he was going in in 65th minute avarage.
4) Rotations - they are so often, i allways see same attack line, same midfield line, same defencive line and same goalkeeper every game, unless there are some injuries of suspensions.
5) I love how pissed off at his players he is when they are playing with outsdanding performance, beating Villareal 5:0, Valencia 4:1, and Valencia 4:3 shooting 3 goals when playing with 9 players

its true but you gotta give him credit for his skills , one of the most amazing players, IMO and i hate ronaldinho too, people tend to overrate his soccer abilities

[Anaztazioch]

@ Dark

Whos that ?
Anyway i fear that mideast wont get "famous" players in europe, like Romania has Mutu and Chivu, Bulgaria with Berbatov, Serbia with Stankovic, Poland with Boruc, Dudek, Janas, Boniek.
You know the mental barrier betwean Mideast and rest of the world.

@ Luffy Vs Naruto

What overrated ? Dude he has 92 overall in Fifa 2008 !!!
I love that Gonzalo Higuain has 52 in Fifa 2006, but in Fifa 2007 he has 74. Why such a big boost of skill ? Well he got transferred to Real Madrid

I barelly Remember Kluivert, back when he was still in Valencia and Netherland. I still preferred Roberto Baggio and Edgar Davids FAR more than him
I dont know why, but i by "default" dislike "young stars" like C.Ronaldo, Benzema, Robinho. Im more prefound to espirianced 27 year old players (as Zidane and Figo were when they entered the fame circle).

[Luffy Vs Naruto]

Originally Posted by Anaztazioch

@ Dark

Whos that ?
Anyway i fear that mideast wont get "famous" players in europe, like Romania has Mutu and Chivu, Bulgaria with Berbatov, Serbia with Stankovic, Poland with Boruc, Dudek, Janas, Boniek.
You know the mental barrier betwean Mideast and rest of the world.

@ Luffy Vs Naruto

What overrated ? Dude he has 92 overall in Fifa 2008 !!!
I love that Gonzalo Higuain has 52 in Fifa 2006, but in Fifa 2007 he has 74. Why such a big boost of skill ? Well he got transferred to Real Madrid

He is so overrated , the only fact that he has the 92 overall is because he played with people better then him which made him famous and made him achieve his 92 overal, as for his skill i think he is definitely overrated and about Gonzalo is because he has the same overal abilities as the rest of Madrid which makes it easy for him to play under real madrid and get better. And Van persies ability is way higher then Ronaldinhos, with ronaldinho its only tricks and falling down, real soccer should also involve running

[DarkUmagon]

Originally Posted by Anaztazioch

@ Dark

Whos that ?
Anyway i fear that mideast wont get "famous" players in europe, like Romania has Mutu and Chivu, Bulgaria with Berbatov, Serbia with Stankovic, Poland with Boruc, Dudek, Janas, Boniek.
You know the mental barrier betwean Mideast and rest of the world.

@ Luffy Vs Naruto

What overrated ? Dude he has 92 overall in Fifa 2008 !!!
I love that Gonzalo Higuain has 52 in Fifa 2006, but in Fifa 2007 he has 74. Why such a big boost of skill ? Well he got transferred to Real Madrid

That is true for some cases, but not for Ali Karimi. Iran played Germany in order to raise money for the victims of a very bad earthquake. Karimi played really well in that game and he went directly to Bayern Munich.

Once at Bayern Munich he played well for 6 months and then against Hamburg he got badly injured. He couldn't play for quite some time. So after 2 years of being at Bayern Munich, he left for an arab team. Now thankfully he is back in Iran. Even though he is on my most hated team. I hope he plays well so that i can see him on the national team again .

[Anaztazioch]

Gonzalo is because he has the same overal abilities as the rest of Madrid which makes it easy for him to play under real madrid and get better.

How much do you watch him play ?
Watch MATCHES Real Madid played in second half od 2006/07 season and you will see what completelly differant team it is with him on the pitch.
He is not like Benzema that is to be "sure" to score a goal, where rest of the team works for it. He works hard to win, he couldnt care less weather he scores or someone else.
I was saying "kick off Robinho back to the bench and let 20 play full times" long before he scored his second goal for RM.
Or watch... hmm Real Madid - Malaga FC(or Mallorca) (final match in 2006/2007 season). He came arround 60th minute, from Real playing poorly and losing 0:1 (Barcelona won last day match and was 3 points ahead of RM in table) he made an assist from corner kick for Diarra's equalizer, assist from end line to Reyes form 1 goal lead, and he lost the ball direcly before Reyes made a long range shot for 3:1. Reyes was hero of RM more than Higuain.
Or simply watch Real Madrid - Osasuna Pampeluna. I dont remember exaxly, but i think Real was losing 2:0 or 1:0 (if Real would win or Draw, they would ensure LA Liga cup 3 days before the end of season). Gonzalo cames in 76th min, in 87th his freekick finds head of Robbena nd 1:1 (or 2:1), than in 89th Diarra's run and Ramos pass, his volley and 2:1 (or 2:2).

When ever he playes, hes not a "finisher", or final pass player. He really carries the team, like Messi and Iniesta does in Barcelona.

His 2 goals and 1 assist in his debuit for national team isnt a "mistake"

And last words:
During Capello Real Madrid played bad 1st halfs, while great 2nd halfs. In 2nd half Robinho and/or Beckham were substituted by Gonzalo and Reyes. Reyes didnt had such a good time in Madrid, he was more remembered as scorer of 2 goals vs Malaga (or Mallorca).
During Schusters, Real Madrid plays RANDOM. All defends weather Sneijder is in top form, Robinho is in top form, Guti is in top form, or Higuain is on pitch.

[Luffy Vs Naruto]

Originally Posted by Anaztazioch

How much do you watch him play ?
Watch MATCHES Real Madid played in second half od 2006/07 season and you will see what completelly differant team it is with him on the pitch.
He is not like Benzema that is to be "sure" to score a goal, where rest of the team works for it. He works hard to win, he couldnt care less weather he scores or someone else.
I was saying "kick off Robinho back to the bench and let 20 play full times" long before he scored his second goal for RM.
Or watch... hmm Real Madid - Malaga FC (final match in 2006/2007 season). He came arround 60th minute, from Real playing poorly and losing 0:1 (Barcelona won last day match and was 3 points ahead of RM in table) he made an assist from corner kick for Diarra's equalizer, assist from end line to Reyes form 1 goal lead, and he lost the ball direcly before Reyes made a long range shot for 3:1. Reyes was hero of RM more than Higuain.
Or simply watch Real Madrid - Osasuna Pampeluna. I dont remember exaxly, but i think Real was losing 2:0 or 1:0 (if Real would win or Draw, they would ensure LA Liga cup 3 days before the end of season). Gonzalo cames in 76th min, in 87th his freekick finds head of Robbena nd 1:1 (or 2:1), than in 89th Diarra's run and Ramos pass, his volley and 2:1 (or 2:2).

When ever he playes, hes not a "finisher", or final pass player. He really carries the team, like Messi and Iniesta does in Barcelona.

His 2 goals and 1 assist in his debuit for national team isnt a "mistake"

ow thats cool ,i'll watch , soccer is always fun to watch

[Anaztazioch]

@ ow thats cool ,i'll watch , soccer is always fun to watch

Unless you are watching FC barcelona - Bleach (rofl)

[DarkUmagon]

So when is the next world cup qualifers for Europe? October?