Naw Liam doesn't appear till later, not sure if he even appears in the anime, but I think he does.

Raven almost looked like an older version of Gil to me but was hoping you were gonna say Raven and Oz, but I am not sure have I seen Liam yet I am terrible remembering names. Got episode 3 loaded gonna watch it soon.

There's a kind of shounen ai relationship between gil and oz.
Gil and Liam seems kinda close too.

Yeah I bet, so any shonen ai type stuff in this seems you mentioned something, and besides the friend being controlled licking him because he liked the smell of his blood, though I did not mind that either

Raven <3 he's amazing. Break is my favourite, then Vincent, then Raven, then Oz, then Alice *_* I love that series.

by definition they are usually described that way. Hmm I am curious about this new person that just appeared in Pandora Hearts, with the girl and the other guy, the one with dark hair that seems a bit anti-social at the end of episode 2.

I don't see young ones as bishie

Depends how pretty boy you are talking if they are pretty but look older I am ok with that if they look under 16 not ok with that.

Ah I see, mah well, bishie males are fun to look at.

oh no not the ones I am talking about don't like the ones where they make girly looking boys that look to young at that.