Yo, toad moad, jus' a response to yur response. Didn't think you were being rude at all and its no prob. I love positive feedback and lively debates, but that's not what was going on. As you said the situation was out of control.
The Orator is known for lengthy posts, as he is a writer that's expected, but he seldom blows hot air. As for Vincent, he has points also, but he has to learn to present his ideals better.
Well... thats all I wanted to say, I hope this has all blown over. Thanks for the input.