Sasuke Uchiha - Discussion Thread

[Mreaper]

Tobi said he was using Shunshin before he fought Deidara... which can't be right though...

[Stone-Free]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

Iruka could have taught Naruto plenty. You don't need to be famous to teach people simple things. Iruka could have taught Naruto taijutsu, certain ninjutsu(tree walking), how to dispel genjutsu. Just because Naruto didn't use it doesn't mean the opportunity wasn't there.

Kakashi only taught Sasuke twice. Naruto was there for one of them and the other he left Naruto a great teacher. Rather Kakashi favored Sasuke or not is irrelevant because he never left Naruto without a teacher.

Naruto only has so much chakra in the first place because of the fox. You take the fox away Naruto can't make clones by the dozens. Sasuke was still the rookie of the year and a genius ninja without Sharingan. Sasuke would win.

Like I said before, Iruka is a nobody. And he could have taught Naruto taijutsu, ninjutsu and how to dispell genjutsu BUT did he do any of those things? No. He gave Naruto a forehead protector and said "well you got talent but idk if i'm gonna teach you, SOOOOooo good luck on those chunnin exams with only the knowledge of shadow clones^^". And the fact that Kakashi favored Sasuke is very relevant because he was his teacher after Iruka, meaning all he had to learn would be from him. Was Kakashi asking Naruto what his chakra nature was during the chunnin exam? Nope. Did he even try and teach him something as simple as a substitution jutsu? Nope.

And like I said before, Kakashi told Naruto that without the fox he has ATLEAST twice as much chakra by himself. And Kakashi busted kage bunshin dozens in the Zabuza arc and Kakashi is a LOW chakra stamina ninja.. So no, Naruto could bust kage bunshins efficiently enough to carry on the same level he is now.

Sasuke without sharingan vs Naruto sage mode? You my friend are retarded

[Mreaper]

Kakashi bluffed those kage bunshins, if you remember?

Anyway, I totally agree on the last point.
On everything before that though, I must say it feels kinda logical that
a) Kakashi wouldn't bother teaching him Kawarimi if he hadn't learned it during all that time at the academy
b) No one would think to teach the kid stuff at all when he already has a Jounin-level jutsu. It was only when Jiraiya came along with an even more advanced jutsu that he actually got taught something.

[Stone-Free]

Oh yea he did bluff, but Naruto could still pull bunshins without the fox efficiently.

And idk, but if you're a teacher wouldn't you like to have your students make up for something they lacked or failed to learn previously?

[Mreaper]

Yeah, but Kakashi knows a hopeless case when he sees one
I think he felt that since Naruto was beginning to progress faster, and had a goal with virtually no time limit, there was no reason teach him.
After all, Naruto learned most of his tricks by himself, all he really needed was experience.
Sasuke on the other hand had a brother to murder, and whether Kakashi liked it or not he knew the conflict was inevitable. Plus he was pretty much the only one who could help Sasuke with his training due to his Sharingan.

[toad moad]

Originally Posted by Mreaper

Kakashi bluffed those kage bunshins, if you remember?

Anyway, I totally agree on the last point.
On everything before that though, I must say it feels kinda logical that
a) Kakashi wouldn't bother teaching him Kawarimi if he hadn't learned it during all that time at the academy
b) No one would think to teach the kid stuff at all when he already has a Jounin-level jutsu. It was only when Jiraiya came along with an even more advanced jutsu that he actually got taught something.

What's Kawarimi again????

[Vincent1875]

Naruto has to ask for training. You can't expect people to throw themselves at his feet. I was talking about before he graduated anyway. Kakashi only taught his students anything twice. How does him not favoring Sasuke equal teaching Naruto? It doesn't. Your argument only makes sense if he frequently took Sasuke off to train. What he did was the equivalent him taking Sasuke shopping but giving Naruto his credit card and saying have fun. Naruto didn't get shorted. That's why it's irrelevant. The jounin are more superior officers than teachers anyway. Kakashi also only seems to teach at all when his team's in danger of getting killed.

By your examples I assumed we were talking about if they never had the abilities to start with. The kyuubi permanently increased Naruto's chakra levels. That's why they're double Kakashi's. If Naruto never had it they wouldn't be high enough to use kage bushin like he does.

[Mreaper]

Toad, Kawarimi is the Substitution or Replacement jutsu.

And Vincent, prove it, I say. The fox can't give anything but red chakra, the chakra that Naruto is using to keep it at bay is his own natural chakra.

[Vincent1875]

Seemed like the kyuubi's chakra leaks out of the seal into Naruto. That's probably why Naruto's chakra control messed up when it was sealed. There's also the kyuubi only being able to be put in a baby. If Naruto's chakra keeps the fox at bay then it most likely is a result of Naruto's body adapting to the kyuubi.

[inpachi]

There will be lots and lots and lots of butt sex with naruto then maybe sakura might join in depending if shes still in the mood after fcking sauske sensless as soon as he gets back!!