Sasuke Uchiha - Discussion Thread

[Mreaper]

No, but for some the gates could be slightly less effective, I dunno.
And a different mixture ratio of body/spirit ratio is supposed to simply change the nature of the chakra or something. But it feels like Kishimoto never really used that even though he let Orochimaru talk about it briefly.
So I've pretty much dismissed that as an old piece of lore that Kishimoto never really cared for anyway.

[ByakuyaKuchiki]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

I don't think the gates matter. I think they're used to stop a person from overloading certain body parts and injuring themselves. I don't think they actually increase the amount of chakra or stop a person from using all they have.

I would agree with that. It's not an increase in chakra. It's really like taking the speed limiter off of your car so you can drive it at full speed (possibly causing engine damage).

[Mreaper]

Agree with? It's a fact. They regulate chakra flow to prevent you from using too much.
Kinda like the Curse Mark but way trippier.

[ByakuyaKuchiki]

Originally Posted by Mreaper

Agree with? It's a fact. They regulate chakra flow to prevent you from using too much.
Kinda like the Curse Mark but way trippier.

And that is why I agree -_-

[ShiroYasha4]

Originally Posted by saa

he will become the

emokage

:d:d

_o_

[Stone-Free]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

If Kyuubi's regenerating Naruto while fighting then that doesn't mean Naruto would be able to go on forever. It means he be able to fight for a long time. By your logic it's impossible to kill him too because he regenerates while fighting.

So you're saying Kakashi just had the chakra of a genin? He had at least twice as much chakra as Sasuke who could use chunin level techniques. Naruto at twelve could equally spilt his chakra 1000 ways and summon Gamabunta later. He wasn't using the fox either so you can't use that as an excuse. Naruto at 12 wouldn't have trained more than Kakashi, had a stronger body, or more experience. Young Kakashi had at least the chakra that Sasuke had going by their chidori counts.

Yes he would be able to fight forever. Do you understand the concept of regeneration? Ok for example. Manjin Bu or any form of Buu from DBZ had the ability to regenerate. When they would regenerate they'd be restored back to their original state before any type of diminishment, no scars, scratches or any amount of fatigue. Fresh new start.

And no I said Kakashi is a low chakra leveled ninja. #1 it doesn't matter what amount of chakra you have, you can do a jutsu if you have ENOUGH chakra and skill. #2 Kakashi being a low chakra leveled ninja doesn't mean he has the same amount of chakra as an average genin, it means as a jonnin he has less chakra than average. If Kakashi and Guy fought, Kakashi could bust amazing techniques but very few and would become fatigued way before Guy would. They're both jonnin but Kakashi just has lower chakra levels than Guy, it's all natural.

[Mreaper]

Except Guy is a taijutsu user and doesn't exert nearly as much chakra as ninjutsu users except when he's doing advanced techniques that rely on the gates.

Buu's regenerative capabilities are way above Naruto's. Plus even Buu lost ki when regenerating.

[Vincent1875]

It clearly depends on the speed of regeneration. So no it doesn't mean he could fight forever. He could lose stamina faster than he could regenerate it then he'd still hit zero eventually.

How do you know Guy's chakra level? He pretty much uses taijutsu and we've only seen him in about 2 full fights. Is it ever said Kakashi's a low chakra jounin?

ftr I never saw that saga.

[Mreaper]

Too bad, Buu was definitely the best saga of DBZ. Finally it got some of the elements back that I missed from the old DB.

Anyway, I dunno about Guy's chakra level, maybe it's in the databooks? One can always check the wiki.

[Stone-Free]

Originally Posted by Mreaper

Except Guy is a taijutsu user and doesn't exert nearly as much chakra as ninjutsu users except when he's doing advanced techniques that rely on the gates.

Buu's regenerative capabilities are way above Naruto's. Plus even Buu lost ki when regenerating.

Fighting Kakashi, he'd have to use advance techniques relying on the gates lol. But do you remember just before the chunnin exams and Sasuke and Neji were gonna go at it but Lee stopped Sasuke's kick and Neji's fist? Well Sasuke himself said "he completely stopped my kick, thats some chakra he has in those arms" indicating that even basic taijutsu skills use chakra. So i'd say even a person who can't use ninjutsu exerts as much chakra as another person who can.

And Vincent was the one saying that Naruto's stamina was because of the fox's chakra which is saying that the fox constantly regenerates Naruto from diminishment. I was just saying that if that were the case he'd be like Buu and would be able to fight more freely than anyone in Naruto.

And I didn't know that Buu lost ki within each regeneration, thanks

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

It clearly depends on the speed of regeneration. So no it doesn't mean he could fight forever. He could lose stamina faster than he could regenerate it then he'd still hit zero eventually.

How do you know Guy's chakra level? He pretty much uses taijutsu and we've only seen him in about 2 full fights. Is it ever said Kakashi's a low chakra jounin?

ftr I never saw that saga.

Yea I gotta admit, regeneration eventually depletes itself. I really meant that he'd be able to fight for LONG periods of time that would bring other ninja to total fatigue. And I wasn't saying I knew Guys chakra level I was saying that as a jonnin he has more than Kakashi. And you don't have to be a genius to figure out that Kakashi has low chakra levels. I mean look at the second bell test Naruto and Sakura took. He got winded so easily after doing a few dragon jutsu's. Remember when he could do only 1 or 2 chidori a day? And I rememeber him fighting Pein and saying that he lost more than half of his chakra doing a few chidori's and a lightening clone. Guy opens 7 gates against the Kisame double and was still able to move on to find a resting place.