Naruto Manga Discussion Thread 2: It's a Wonderful Sasuke

[narusasu1]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

Or Sasuke was only in team 7 for about 6 months instead of a full year and he could have still been 13. Since we don't actually know what the date is in the series Naruto could have just turned 16 when he met Minato.

How much time has passed since the Nagato fight? Most things happen within the period of a few days. Most time skips are between arcs and training periods. The last 80 or so chapters have taken place over about 2 days for instance.

I don't know why there is a need to argue this, he still said he was 16 and no I don't know if turned 16 before or after he returned, but going by the events that have happened even putting him 17 is saying that all these things happened very fast, really he should be older then that. I think saying he is 17 is a safe guess.

I never said that I had actual dates or a time table, but as far as how long Sasuke was with team 7, well truthfully the arc with Zabuza and Haku would of taken probably 2 or 3 months just on it's own. They had to travel there which took a while apparently, not to mention the fights along the way, then after they got there, they got into another fight. Kakashi and Zabuza both had to go through recovery time. Then the last battle, they would of had to recover again. Then the journey back home.

The exams went over a period of time as well, not mention what all happend during that.

Then there were the other training things they did before and between all of this, like Sasuke and Kakashi being in a coma while Naruto and pervy sage were tracking down Tsunade, oh and their fight with Oro, and ofcourse the last part where they had to try to rescue Sasuke and failed.

I seriously doubt all of that took place in 6 months or that they were still 12 or just barely 13 by the time it ended. Like I said this is just estimating based on events, and the fact that Naruto was 16 when he spoke to his Dad, which means I can't be far off my assumptions.

[Vincent1875]

Didn't a team travel from Konoha to Suna in like a day or two? It seems like a shorter distance to Wave. Sure Tazuna was a normal person but I can't see it taking them more than a week to get there. Kakashi and Zabuza were down for about a week. The major question of time is how long it took for the bridge to be finished after the fight.

The second task of the exams was a week. Then they had a month of training.

Naruto took two or three weeks to learn the rasengan.

They spent a day or two chasing Sasuke.

That's about 3 months of accounted time.

How close was the beginning of the series to Naruto's birthday? I think we're assuming the series started on it.

[Mreaper]

That was full-speed Gai. The trip to Wave was hazardous since they had to be on guard for Tazuna, but there's also the issue of having to switch to boat at some point.
Still, I also don't think it took more than a week.

[method115]

Originally Posted by narusasu1

I did not think what he did with Kabuto was weird, Oro is pure evil but Kabuto is his property, he well and truly owns Kabuto, the boy was so lost without Oro that he tried to become him. Then he also left Kabuto in the state he was in and left with Sasuke, anything could happen to Kabuto if he was found. Not like he is really going out of his way to help him.
It is quite possible that he left him on purpose if Kabuto can even tell what is happening around him at all, then Oro walking away and leaving him, withdrawing his power from him, is like ultimate abandonment.

Oro could hear what was going on before he was released so he would of heard what Kabuto and Itachi discussed. Leaving Kabuto there as he did could be the same as saying you are a fool and not worth my time, my power or to be by my side. The more I think about it, if he does not go back for Kabuto, then it was the most cruel thing he could of done to him. Did you take a good look at Kabuto's face after Oro took his power back, he looked like a completely broken lost pup.


Oro is not concerned about Sasuke as such, he still just wants his body and he may know that whatever it is that Sasuke learns will turn the boy in a direction that will not be beneficial to him, he may even discover that Oro had some involvement in things for that matter.

Whatever Oro's reasons for his comment, he is only thinking of himself.

You could be right. Why say that to stop Sasuke from finding out then turn around and help him? Doesnt make much sense.

He could have heard what Itachi said and decided Kabuto did need to learn that lesson and left him there.

Like I said your probably right but who knows.

[narusasu1]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

Didn't a team travel from Konoha to Suna in like a day or two? It seems like a shorter distance than to Wave. Sure Tazuna was a normal person but I can't see it taking them more than a week to get there. Kakashi and Zabuza were down for about a week. The major question of time is how long it took for the bridge to be finished after the fight.

The second task of the exams was a week. Then they had a month of training.

Naruto took two or three weeks to learn the rasengan.

They spent a day or two chasing Sasuke.

That's about 3 months of accounted time.

How close was the beginning of the series to Naruto's birthday? I think we're assuming the series started on it.

Let's see spoiling this because I am sick and I got carried away rambling

Spoiler

Naruto is tricked into stealing scrolls
Naruto kicks butt and gets his headband
Team seven is selected
the bells test
(we have no way of knowing if these events were back to back or had days between them)
mission find the cat
trip to wave country
if it took a week to get there, took another week to recover, the bridge was only half built, and they were building by hand, then the trip back another week, still say they were probably there 2 months at least.
they meet the sand kids and learn about the exams
they have to take the written exam
then they have to get through the forest exam where Oro attacks Sasuke blah blah what was that a week.
they had the first round of fights
they took a month to train
the second round of fights
interuption attack on the leaf
the 3rd vs Oro and Naruto vs Gaara
the funeral
Naruto leaves to find Tsunade
Itachi shows up puts Kakashi in a coma
Goes after Naruto
Sasuke finds out, goes to find Naruto before Itachi
Itachi torments Sasuke again
Sasuke has to be taken back to the village in a coma
they return to search for Tsunade
(how long did they travel)
Oro makes his proposition to Tsunade
Tsunade meets Naruto and challenges him over the necklace to learn risengan
that was 3 days
The fight with Kabuto and Oro
Tsunade returns to village
Konohamaru has a hissy fit
Tsunade tells Gai and Lee the probably outcome of Lee
Lee chooses the surgery
Sasuke wakes up mad and challenges Naruto because he is jealous
They fight
The sound shows up with their offer
Sasuke leaves that night
Next day the mission begins
(now some time had to elapse between Lee's choice and Sasuke deciding he wanted to fight Naruto, and him leaving because Lee was able to show up and help fight the bone guy in the Sasuke mission)
How long did it actually take them to get to Sasuke

Now if you want to be logical about it and assume that there are days missing and not all the events actually happened back to back besides the ones we know that did, then I think all of these things would of went longer then 6 months.

I know bonds can be formed quickly but from the time team 7 was put together until the fight with Haku, Sasuke had come to see Naruto as someone he was willing to die for, his only memories before passing out were of Naruto, he only mentioned his brother once.Haku said to Naruto that Sasuke had found his precious person, meaning Naruto. I don't think he would of come to think that much of Naruto in a couple of weeks although it is possible. This goes both ways Naruto also starting to realizing how he felt and going kyuubi for the first time.

Now I want to know if this information is in the data books, because I can't see that all happening in a span of 6 months.

Then it depends how close to 13 they were when it started, if Naruto was 13 when he left and was 15 when he returned but turned 16 by the time he met his dad, then he would of been a few month into being 13 before he left. A lot has happened since he seen his dad would still say he is 17 by now. If Naruto was 16 when he returned though, that would of put him at 14 when he left.

Either way he was either 13 and a half or 14 when he left to be 16 by the time he met Minato, he was 12 when the series started so even if he was 12 and half, it would still make it a year before he left if was 13 and half, longer if he had just turned 12 or was 14 when he left.

[Vincent1875]

Why bother naming things that happen on the same day? It needlessly bloats the list.

[narusasu1]

There are only a couple that actually happened on the same day and some I mentioned because of their importance to leading to the next event.

Also the terrible anime fillers, even though they don't count so to say, the leaf history fillers horrid as they were, insuate many missions and time we did not see.

Not that it matters, but it is not illogical to think that we did not see every day of their lives or every mission that they did etc etc.

There are events we know were back to back but there are also events that we can not say they were, the time before the trip to the wave, how long they were actually gone. How many days passed after they got back before the exams were announced, as Sakura stated to Kakashi they have been getting worse since we got back.

How long did it actually take for them to get to Tsunade and bring her back, or how long between the attack on the village, the funeral, and the departure to go find her for that matter.

How long was Sasuke in the hospital after Tsunade returned, how long was Lee in surgery and how long did it take for him to be up to fighting.

There is a lot of what if's on the time but if I had to make a guess at it at the least I would say a year.

[Vincent1875]

We don't need to see everyday. We've still only observed 3 or so months passing and that was with me rounding up. It takes a lot to push that up to a full year.

I'd also like to note that Tanuza wasn't working entirely by hand as they had at least one crane and the bridge was mostly done.

Spoiler

Also They'd have likely gotten back much faster without having to escort a drunk civilian.

[narusasu1]

Ok the bridge was further along then I thought although it appears they damaged the middle of it with their fight lol

Anyway here is just snippets from the Offcial Naruto Databook #3

First part has Naruto's stats age birthdate etc there is a lot more discussion that follows the stats but I am not posting all that as it pertains to their feelings etc and not about anything we are discussing.

Spoiler

Naruto Uzumaki
genin

No way you can become Hokage if you can't even save a friend.

Nin 4 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 2 - Int 3 - Str 3.5 - Spe 3.5 - Sta 5 - Sea 1.5

Ninja registration number: 012607
Birthday: 10/10 (16 years old, Libra)
Height: 166.0cm - Weight: 50.9kg - Blood type: B
Personality: doesn't like to lose, show-off
Favorite food: Ichiraku's ramen, oshiruko (sweet, VERY sweet azuki soup, ndt)
Food he dislikes: fresh vegetables
Person he would like to fight: Akatsuki
Favorite word: large serving of miso chashu (miso ramen with pork meat, ndt)
Hobby: pranks, watering plants

Graduated from Academy at: 12 years old
Became chuunin at: - years old
Mission history: 7 D-rank, 1 C-rank, 2 B-rank, 6 A-rank, 0 S-rank

With the burning will of Fire in his heart, he runs towards his dreams and his bonds!!

Over 2 years have passed, and Naruto is back to Konoha. His growth definitely deserves to be taken a look at.

Sasuke's stats etc

Spoiler

Sasuke Uchiha
- (no rank, ndt)

With my hatred... I'll turn the illusion into reality!

Nin 5 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 4 - Int 3.5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Sea 4

Ninja registration number: 012606
Birthday: 7/23 (16 years old, Leo)
Height: 168.0cm - Weight: 52.2kg - Blood type: AB
Personality: cool, bluffer
Favorite food: omusubi (okaka) (omusubi is like onigiri; okaka is dried bonito, ndt), tomato
Food he dislikes: natto (fermented soybeans, ndt), sweet stuff
Person he would like to fight: the upper echelons of Konoha
Favorite word: power
Hobby: training, taking walks

Graduated from Academy at: 12 years old
Became chuunin at: - years old
Mission history: 7 D-rank, 1 C-rank, 2 B-rank, 6 A-rank, 0 S-rank

After brushing away the darkness that veiled his heart, the \\\\\\"Uchiha\\\\\\" falcon is now ready to spread his wings towards another goal.

Three years have passed since Sasuke left the village. Now he radiates the same eerie aura as a sharp blade.

It says was over 2 years when Naruto returned to the village age 16


On Sasuke's it says it has been 3 years but he is already set on Kohona so it is further past Naruto's return. A half a year later apparently.

So would say he would be 17 by now or damn near about to be but Sauke probably is and Naruto either is too or is about to be. Sasuke was born in July and Naruto in October so there is like 3 months between their ages.

[Vincent1875]

Well it was saying what age Naruto was then not when he got to the village. As you know it wasn't long before Naruto fought Nagato. It comes back to how long has passed since Nagato attacked the village.