OnePiece: Episode Discussion Thread

[llDeathll]

Originally Posted by Zolo7747

OH yeah sorry one more question is there an explanation for the change to 1Piece on the main site???

I heard they started sueing people. 1336 people to be infact. I think by making it 1piece it will not come up in searches for one piece hence they will not find animecrazy hew he he.

[Zolo7747]

Ahhh I see, oh clever - excellent!
I can't believe it, sueing that many people ridiculous!!! where else can you then watch One Piece but JAPAN asnwer - NO WHERE!! the world needs One Piece

[Mony]

Originally Posted by llDeathll

BB is such a wimp lollolollollol. The guy just got downgraded, what a chump. The way he was wailing and has such poor defence is shocking.

Hes lucky WB was dying else he would have wooped him so badly. Take that quake punch that was heading for his face.

Loved how WB got gang attacked and BB calling him a monster and saying he should just die, it was funny. I guess it shows us just how great and strong a pirate Rodger and WB were. Red blood, Black and White background. Superb execution of the brutality and overkill of their attack.

WBs speach, bril but I want to analyse it further. Firstly in WBs flash back Rodger said if he wanted to know how to get to rafetel. This tells me WB could have become the next pirate king/ reach rafetel if he wanted. However, like Shanks he has no interest in the position meaning the journey there may be hard but not as hard as we think. In other words Rodger and WB have set the bar in terms of power level needed to reach the place.

He said hes met a few people who have D in their name. The ones we know are...

Jaguar D Saul
Monkey D Dragon
Monkey D Luffy
Monkey D Garp
Gold D Rodger
Gold D Ace
Marshall D Teach
(I think Carugar the ancient warrior from Sky Pier might have a D)

We know all the Ds are exceptionaly strong. Going based on Ace Luffy and Garp we know they fall asleep at random times and going by Ace/Luffy/Teach we know they have a huge apetite maybe caused by a fast metabolism.

Togeather they are the will of D and Dr Katrina (the one who raised Chopper) was surprised the will lives on.

Now WB said its not Teach, the man Rodger is waiting for is not him. This tells me Rodger left something, a message perhaps which is the One piece. Hes waiting for one of the Ds to come claim it but its not Teach. The question is, how does WB know its not Teach?

In the Manga WB says "the man that Rodger waits for are a very fair few but your not one of them". He also said "those that came to fight for this world". Could it be that the ancient civilisation which wrote the poneglyhs have put something there for Ds to access to beat the WG. We know that those huge battleships *one of the ones crocodile was after* where made to be used against the WG if the day ever called for it.

"Thats how it came down, unbroken through the ages" Why it must be the Will of D. The strength and behaviour. The bloodlines.

This gigantic war he speaks of which will be the result of the void centry is very interesting. What could the WG have done which is so bad in the past that all the good things they are doing now will equal nought. Who will fight in this war? If countries turn their back on the WG there will be no more WG so maybe there will be a split? Some will turn against the WG others will remain loyal? He said it will also be in one day meaning the revelation will be so big that people will react fast.

Notice he also said The One Piece not One Piece. It is a single object an item I have concluded. By saying that he is going to kick start the age of pirates because now they know it is not a myth.

The feather laying beside Aces beed signifies the will of Ace being passed on to Luffy. The mission Ace had which was inherited by Rodger as being one of the Ds he must reach Rafetel has now gone to lay on Luffy.

My word so from episode one this anime has not been about boy looking for treasure or One Piece. Its not about boy wanting to become the most free man in the world. Its all about and has always been about liberating the world of an organization which we now know as the WG. Because of something they will do (are planing to do) or have done which is so terrible that no act of repentence will lead to forgiveness.

(On a side note I think Asiah from Sky Island. The little girl with mantra like Enels may have the kings disposition). After all she had such advanced mantra when she was born and Enel only has it because hes lightning and so it amplifies it, so dont be surprised if you see her in the storyline again in the future.

Really cool assessment. Truthfully I haven't really thought too much on things. However, I will take a stab at this.

I didn't read the manga (until last few weeks now) so I didn't know what WB said in the manga.

I agree Blackbeard is a wimp and you are right it does show how strong WB and Roger were, as well as the other Yonkous. Obviously have to be really strong and powerful to be considered one of them. I think Shanks is probably the youngest of the four well now 3. You are right when you say Shanks doesn't seem that interested in it, just like WB was rooting for Ace, I believe Shanks is rooting for Luffy. WB didn't care about OP, he just wanted a family as he said.

You might hit something interesting when you said the Polygrephs might have something to do with it, which makes Robin even more important and great that she is on Luffy's crew so they can learn it, although Luffy doesn't seem interested in them, lol.

I wouldn't say Roger is only waiting for the D's. Just there is a strong will in the D's. Shanks isn't a D but he is strong as heck (then again, we weren't given his full name) I have a feeling there will be a few pirate crews who reach Raftel at the same time.

In terms of how WB knows it isn't Blackbeard. It could be something in him that he sees Blackbeard of not being worthy. In other episodes I forgot who said it, they said Luffy's true threat is not how strong he is, it is the fact that he can just make anyone want to be on his side and help him. Blackbeard doesn't have that to me, it comes down to this huge fight in the world, he will have to try and force people who are not in his crew to fight. Someone like Eustass Kidd, I don't think he is it either, just because of how he is. So if a big war is to happen, I think people would jump on Luffy's side to help. Also unlike the other top pirates, Blackbeard feared death. None of the others who we think of top really feared death.

I agree though that it seems as if there is something the World Govt do not want people to know at all and it is obvious that they are afraid of that impending threat.

I will probably have more opinion later on, I should read the manga chapter for this episode. It really is a turning episode I think as well.

[Mcdanger]

Originally Posted by Zolo7747

Ahhh I see, oh clever - excellent!
I can't believe it, sueing that many people ridiculous!!! where else can you then watch One Piece but JAPAN asnwer - NO WHERE!! the world needs One Piece

well every person who watches it online is money out of their pocket

[llDeathll]

Originally Posted by Mcdanger

well every person who watches it online is money out of their pocket

People in Japan get to watch it for free. UK only showed 4Kids dub which sucked. I can not watch it off funanimations site because of that regional thingy.

I am therefore forced to watch it on animecrazy and as economists would say I naturally become a free rider.

I will not pay for 485 Dvd episodes when the whole of Japan watches it for free and funanimation show it for free on their site. Plus to top it off I most likely could not get all the eps to 485 on DVD

[swaitchprince]

R.I.P. Papa-beard
this episode was epic Papa-beard was so epic

[Zolo7747]

Originally Posted by llDeathll

People in Japan get to watch it for free. UK only showed 4Kids dub which sucked. I can not watch it off funanimations site because of that regional thingy.

I am therefore forced to watch it on animecrazy and as economists would say I naturally become a free rider.

I will not pay for 485 Dvd episodes when the whole of Japan watches it for free and funanimation show it for free on their site. Plus to top it off I most likely could not get all the eps to 485 on DVD

Exactly, so this view is probably shared by about 99% of OP viewers outside Japan as well, correct me if I'm worng

[Justaway]

has anyone got the preview?

I guessed it right... oyaji met his end here too :/ but he was the man while he died so I wasn't sad at all. Meanwhile Blackbeard's scardiness was a little surprise to me. He is such a worm.

Two amazing episodes in a row, One Piece is the real deal v__v

[llDeathll]

Originally Posted by Mony

Really cool assessment. Truthfully I haven't really thought too much on things. However, I will take a stab at this.

I didn't read the manga (until last few weeks now) so I didn't know what WB said in the manga.

I agree Blackbeard is a wimp and you are right it does show how strong WB and Roger were, as well as the other Yonkous. Obviously have to be really strong and powerful to be considered one of them. I think Shanks is probably the youngest of the four well now 3. You are right when you say Shanks doesn't seem that interested in it, just like WB was rooting for Ace, I believe Shanks is rooting for Luffy. WB didn't care about OP, he just wanted a family as he said.

You might hit something interesting when you said the Polygrephs might have something to do with it, which makes Robin even more important and great that she is on Luffy's crew so they can learn it, although Luffy doesn't seem interested in them, lol.

I wouldn't say Roger is only waiting for the D's. Just there is a strong will in the D's. Shanks isn't a D but he is strong as heck (then again, we weren't given his full name) I have a feeling there will be a few pirate crews who reach Raftel at the same time.

In terms of how WB knows it isn't Blackbeard. It could be something in him that he sees Blackbeard of not being worthy. In other episodes I forgot who said it, they said Luffy's true threat is not how strong he is, it is the fact that he can just make anyone want to be on his side and help him. Blackbeard doesn't have that to me, it comes down to this huge fight in the world, he will have to try and force people who are not in his crew to fight. Someone like Eustass Kidd, I don't think he is it either, just because of how he is. So if a big war is to happen, I think people would jump on Luffy's side to help. Also unlike the other top pirates, Blackbeard feared death. None of the others who we think of top really feared death.

I agree though that it seems as if there is something the World Govt do not want people to know at all and it is obvious that they are afraid of that impending threat.

I will probably have more opinion later on, I should read the manga chapter for this episode. It really is a turning episode I think as well.

Nice. Very interesting some of the points you raised like who could reach Rafetel.

Alot of the answers we seek may be found in the Sky Pier Ark and arabasta one.

Pluton, the ancient weapon created which can destroy a whole island with one shot.

Polyglph, history written on stone which can not be destroyed. Covers 100 years of missing history.

We know 800 years ago the Shandians fought a battle which claimed many lives to protect the polyglph.

It was 800 years ago that a civilisation was whipped off the face of the earth which we are lead to believe was the doing of what is now called the WG.

It is said Pluton was a weapon stored ready to be used on an enermy if they ever got out of control. The enermy being the WG. I assume that during or after the war the WG then sought to destroy all the polyglphs and the Shandarians where made a target as a result.

One question I cannot answer. Why would the WG destroy that ancient but advanced civilisation.

Watch One Piece episode 277

In summary
Clover said that the civilisation of 800 years ago wrote on polygphys because they did not want to have their message destroyed. It is clear they had an enermy. If we assume these people were destroyed by their enermy then their enermy would continue to live on in history. WG was born 800 years ago. From Polyglphs we know their was a civilisation in the missing 100 years which has been erased from history and it was a mighty civilisation.

An alliance of nations fought against it hence their demise.
Pluto was formed to fight agaisnt the WG. Clover states that the history and name of that country is the greatest threat to the WG.

What the heck can this mean?
The country boasted of its strength, is it this country where the blood line of D begins? We know Dragon wants to topple the WG. Hes slowly working his way through Kingdoms allied to the WG and causing a change from kings and queens to a political state.

Its stated that maybe the civilisation found out something an allie was doing. But what could country do that is so bad that 800 years later it is still a threat? Maybe they are still going it?

This is as far as I figure things out but it seems the real enermy is the WG and this has now been confirmed. If Sengoku knows the true history and the Grousi knows the true history, if its so horrid why do they still fight for the WG.
The Will of D. Could this be the will power to make a change in the world?
Rayleigh said in your current state there is nothing you can do about it...

(btw did anyone know Akinu was a vice admiral when he blew up the ship of civilians at ohora)

Manga 272 Summary.
All the books in Shandia got destroyed, the history was erased 800 years ago. It was 800 years ago Robin states that the town fought to protect the polygyplh which is why it got destroyed.

Cant find any further clues, this is all we have to go by. But what Rodger told WB was def the history (100 missing years) because he said it happened a longlong time ago and 800 years is a long time ago.

[llDeathll]

It suddenly hit me, what do we know?

All Ds are very strong and to get to Rafetel you have to be WB or Gold Rodger level/strength.

On Rafetel there is the Rio Polyglyph. The grand one which tells all the history written on the polyglyphs, the total missing 100 years of history. One Piece must be this as its The One Piece as WB calls it. This meaning The One Piece of complete histroy "Rio Polyglyph" containing all the history which can be found on the polyglphs scattered across the world.

Now anyone whos strong enough can reach this location (based on what Matony said) but going back to what I said earlier Dr Katrina said Luffy was a very dangerous man because of D. This tells me that its natural for those who have D to posses or have the potential to posses the strength WB and Rodger had making them prime candidates to reach Rafetel. Thus this nation where the blood line of D assends from put all this history on this Island which only the strongest can get to because they knew it would be out of the reach of the WG. After all they were a superior strong civilisation with naturally strong people, by putting it here they cut most people off from having access to it which means the WG can not destroy or hide it. Giving access to the people they mainly want to see it, their future off spring *the Ds* (a natural race of warriors and strong fighters).

It was because Rodgers time was running out that he could not begin a crusade against WG and do what the person who reached that Island was meant to do. Release the history!!! So how else should he fight the world goverment. By starting the age of pirates so that the goverment becomes embroiled in a constant battle for power. WB then decided to add fuel to the fire, knowing he could not take the WG down his last words signified his thoughts, if I cant take you down then im going to make sure I give you as hard a time as possible and inspire someone who will.

This is not an actual spoiler below in the spoiler tag. Its just the image is big.

Spoiler

Also look at what Ussop says to Rayleigh on the pirate age. This also is not a spoiler but in spoiler tags for same reason above.

Spoiler

As we now know the history will cause a war. When you show the history to the world you have to be ready for the events that will follow and posibly lead it. I think that is what Raleigh ment.