Ichigo's Hollow a Vasto Lorde???

[Caligula]

How are there 52 pages discussing something that was proved wrong in the 1st page? Seems a bit silly imo.

[SSJ5]

Well It really wasnt proved wrong but there in really no way he could be one unless he was one before ichigo hich I dont think is possible

[Whewt22]

So is repeating what everyone else has been saying for 52 pages?

[SSJ5]

lol I guess so well i asked if anyone wanted me to close this but I was told no

[drzorba]

Yeah I think people just look at the title page of the threads and comment right away. Then stupid people like myself and whewt repeat what we said ten times before instead of just ignoring it. Oh well gives something to do.

hehe yea.............

[naitsirk0]

I got bored after reading the first 3 pages..
honestly how can this thread keep going?
anywho! wonder what it is that makes the transition between shinigami / hollow
I mean yeah it's the hougyouko (srsly I must check how to spell that) that breaks down the barrier - so was it aizen who first created the means to break down the barrier? - and kisuke refined it with the creation of the hougyouko? cos aizen was experimenting on hollow whilst in SS.
Sorry if I've repeated anything that's been said before but... 53 pages?

well yea urahara created the hokyoku, but he knew aizen was after it(if u read the manga, back to pendulum) so he placed it in rukia. and the only way it can come out is either that big sword in SS or the green hand thing he used. then he used it to break the hollows barrier to make espadas.

[naitsirk0]

yeah (im gonna have to re-read that pendulum arc)
but what I meant was - did he find a way to break the barrier - as I don't think that it was kisuke that was experimenting on shinigamis (and finally the captains / LTs) to create vaizards

[Whewt22]

I stil don't understand what your asking. But Aizen expirimented on Shinigami/hollow hybrids, which were good. But he wanted hollow/shinigami, and he unsuccesfully made anything worthy for his plans.

So basically he used the Vizard as a ploy for Kisuke to reveal hes made something to save them, or to create something. Luckily enough, hes already made the hogyoku. But unfortunetly Aizen got his hands on it, and he can now succesfull create and had created the hybrid he wanted.