Aizen or Kenpachi?!

[narutoichigo88]

Originally Posted by naitsirk0

Aizen has so much random reiyoku *edit* that he pulls off a kidou without an incantation and 1 hits a captain. Now it's my guess that you'd need *edit* reiyoku, even a little to use kidou, and being able to use such high level without a sweat, cmon.
The only thing we've seen of kenpachi is that he can make a 'pre bankai' ichigo stop and tremble, aizen can bring an espada to his knees, and the technique that kenpachi used - releasing all his stored up reiatsu at once, sure it's strong, but if it was incredibly strong it should have wiped out ichigo. I can't understand how people can think kenpachi can hold a candle to aizen..

we'll see about that

[naitsirk0]

Originally Posted by narutoichigo88

we'll see about that

please explain? Even a little, why you think kenpachi has as much reiatsu as aizen, or in fact, could touch aizen.
The fact that kenpachi has his reiatsu munched constantly would be a point if it wasn't so weak when released, did he use it in his fight versus nnoitra? I can't remember, but I do remember it not being effective if used, as he had to rely on kendo.

[Eddy654]

Definately Aizen, I say this because he has the reiatsu of 2 Captain Shinigami, and he can make an Espada kneel. Kenpachi may have brute strenght however Aizen has speed to make up for it and his Zanpakuto puts people in perfect Hypnosis. Besides Aizen is one of the strongest Captains besides Yamamoto, Kyoraku, and Unohana, I believe they all have higher stats than Kenpachi on the databook of Bleach. Kenpachi might put up a decent battle at best however if Aizen can stop a Katana by Komamura's Shikai or Bankai with one hand than blocking/countering Kenpachi would be childs play.


Go to this link and direct to the Abilities section


S?suke Aizen - Bleach Wiki

[Valis]

Originally Posted by granreycero

Who do yall think has more reaitsu naturally?!

The question here is "Who do yall think has more reaitsu naturally?!" yes?
Why do I see people saying that, he has more speed than him?
He has more speed than him etc etc? Just saying that no one is really answering what they should here...

Anyway, on the topic...
Even tho I'm a HUGE Ken-chan fan (He is a freaking god! ><).. no, you can't compare him with Aizen. Aizen is far to strong to compare him with anyone AT THE MOMENT! Making this poll... silly. (After all we all know that Ichigo will die 3-4 times more... he will get revived stronger each time and in the end [1-2 years from now as they are going with this...] HE will beat Aizen...The reason I hate Ichigo, grrr.) Too much DBZ imo! :P

Thats my opinion atleast :P

Edit: ps: Haven't read every page here..so if I said something that has been said before or it was really stupid... SOWWYYYYYYYYYY! ^.^

Aizen. Lol. No doubt.

[Eddy654]

Originally Posted by Valis

The question here is "Who do yall think has more reaitsu naturally?!" yes?
Why do I see people saying that, he has more speed than him?
He has more speed than him etc etc? Just saying that no one is really answering what they should here...

Anyway, on the topic...
Even tho I'm a HUGE Ken-chan fan (He is a freaking god! ><).. no, you can't compare him with Aizen. Aizen is far to strong to compare him with anyone AT THE MOMENT! Making this poll... silly. (After all we all know that Ichigo will die 3-4 times more... he will get revived stronger each time and in the end [1-2 years from now as they are going with this...] HE will beat Aizen...The reason I hate Ichigo, grrr.) Too much DBZ imo! :P

Thats my opinion atleast :P

Edit: ps: Haven't read every page here..so if I said something that has been said before or it was really stupid... SOWWYYYYYYYYYY! ^.^

The reason I put various other qualities rather than reiatsu was because reiatsu and other abilities tie together so yeah. Also I didnt think that Original question was detailed enough, I mean in a way its just like saying which one is stronger. Its debatable to say someone with higher reiatsu is stronger than someone with lower reiatsu, so I added in other facters, since brute strenght doesnt always equal the better warrior.


In terms of Kidou Aizen is stronger if you look at the link I posted, Kidou was the aspect that was mostly related to Reiatsu on the stats chart. Aizen can do Kidou without chants and hes basically mastered most of the Kidou since he can do high leveled ones. Just because Kenpachi's reiatsu bursts out doesnt mean nothing, if anything it burst out because he cant control it well or rather channels it inside. If Kenpachi's crazy reiatsu couldnt almost beat Noitra in his released from than I doubt he can beat someone who created all the Espada and are no doubt stronger than them. Huge reiatsu is not gonna really help you if you cannot channel it and control it as will, other captains can do this and with Kenpachi is does give him some moderate abilities which are to become more durable, and have more strength than he usually does.



Though this is just my take on the situation, take it how you will.

[Whewt22]

Your arguement doesn't really prove or disprove anything, your mixing up reiatsu and reiryoku. Anyways as stated atleast 30 times, Aizen brought someone of Grimmjow's strength and capability to his knees on the verge of passing out. As Kenpachi is merely subjugating charaters as weak as Hanataro.

I think it comes down to control of their reiatsu. Kenpachi seems to have more due to his eyepatch, however I believe that's merely lack of control. Which is supported by him being unable to seal his sword. I don't remember why we left this open, but I don't really see the point anymores.

[naitsirk0]

Ditto, there's no point in discussing more, closey? :3

[Whewt22]

Right on