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Old 01-28-2009, 05:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 20 Years for Loli Manga: “Victims Don’t Have to Exist”

A federal appeals panel has upheld the 20 year sentence of a lolicon found to have received illustrations of underage sex by email, saying that “it is not a required that the minor depicted actually exists”, and so ruling art not to be universally protected free speech.

The court also insisted that purely textual email containing incest related material was not constitutionally protected free speech, and so also upheld his conviction on these grounds.

The man concerned (55), a resident of Richmond, Virginia, is serving a 20 year sentence after being convicted in 2005 of “receiving 20 Japanese cartoons, called anime, illustrating young girls being forced to have sex with men”, which he rather unwisely received using a public computer at the Virginia Employment Commission.

Additionally, he was found to have sent and received incest related emails of a purely textual nature, which were judged to be obscene and therefore not constitutionally protected free speech.

Clouding the issue further, the man apparently also received unambiguously illegal photographs of underage sexual conduct.

All this resulted in a jury convicting him of 74 offences, including receiving obscene materials, receiving obscene visual representations of underage sex, receiving child pornography and sending and receiving obscene emails. His sentence of 20 years was the maximum possible.

The notorious PROTECT Act of 2003, which permits arbitrarily stripping material of its First Amendment protections if it can be judged obscene according to the criteria of the Miller Test, was instrumental in securing these convictions; in fact this represents the first successful conviction under it.

In his appeal against the convictions, he claimed that the illustrations were protected by the First Amendment, as they do not depict real children. He also claimed the PROTECT Act was unconstitutional as textual emails cannot be considered obscene.

The judges would have none of it, holding that the act was made for the protection of imaginary children:

“It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exists.”

One of the three judges did accept his arguments, though this had no impact on the majority ruling. The convictions for the photographs did not come into question.

The man intends to continue elevating the appeal, to the Supreme Court if necessary, in order to get the relevant parts of his conviction quashed.

It is not his first brush with the law: in 1999 he was sentenced to nearly four years for possessing pornography depicting minors, so clearly he is not the most charismatic appellant.

This via AP, brought to my attention in the forums.

The PROTECT Act of late seems to be coming to the fore in relation to cases involving loli manga; there is also the recent case of an Iowa man facing similar convictions, although in his case without any real imagery involved.

Given that so much anime and manga, both mainstream and erotic, revolves around sexual situations involving participants clearly under what US law would regard as a legal age for such depictions to not constitute child pornography, just how much of mainstream anime and manga, to say nothing of actual pornography, will eventually come under the remit of such laws should they go unchecked?

With lower courts and national politicians gleefully stripping both speech and art of Constitutional protections using the evils of underage sex as a lever, we have to wonder whether the Supreme Court will actually rectify matters at some point?


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I know its kinda sick but for the love of God he went to jail for something that doesn't really exist , seriously WTF

Also this is the kinda shit that gives anime a bad name

I found this while suring some chan boards looking for a mecha pic for SCAR

cant link site were found cause its an anime site that has a H-anime section
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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wow wtf! ¬_¬
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hahahaha busted!
Doesn't matter whether they exist or not..
Thats just a poor excuse.
Videos and describing in detail a little girl being forcibly used sexually shouldn't even exist in the first place. if he's getting his rocks off on that crap its almost as bad as possessing the real stuff.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well he actually got years for a part of this story that was cropped out. He was caught with real child pron along with these. The judges statement is still absurd though.

Child-porn cartoon conviction upheld - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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Well -_-.. what can i say in his deffence?.. nothing really.. it is morally wrong.. but i don't think jail would make him change his ways..
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i acually read on a site 3 months ago that in japan things like lolicon have accually cut down on real child porn and less real children have been getting abused cause of this. i still think its wrong to even have pics but if it helps real kids be safe then let him have his cartoons!!!
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The UK is looking to pass a bill banning lolicon outright... It has good momentum, too.


People just don't know how to be discrete. ;x
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