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View Poll Results: Who do you think is stronger ?
Enel 28 29.79%
Kizaru 49 52.13%
I cant decide meh .. 17 18.09%
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:47 PM   #311 (permalink)
 
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Old 07-04-2009, 03:53 PM   #312 (permalink)
 
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zorro shoes are like that but it does not work again kizaru shoes is not all made of rubber. if he want to strike effectively his legs must be in normal state or else he will be reflected
Zoro wasn't trying to kick enel so I don't even know why you brought him up.

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that seconds of your will be invalid if enel will turn his body to lightning... if he turn his leg to normal state he will get electrified...
Not if Kizaru hits with his sole, then Enel's face will revert.

As for too much speculation. Kizaru's pretty undeveloped so all we can do is speculate.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:26 AM   #313 (permalink)
 
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Zoro wasn't trying to kick enel so I don't even know why you brought him up.


Not if Kizaru hits with his sole, then Enel's face will revert.

As for too much speculation. Kizaru's pretty undeveloped so all we can do is speculate.
that is mantra what for. dont forget their is thunder everywhere near enel so if kizaru decide to kick enel with a normal state leg he will be RAIGOU! lol.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:46 AM   #314 (permalink)
 
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Okay, enough with being polite.

Logias cannot be hit by physical attacks. Period. It's got nothing to do with whether you hit them unaware or not, you cannot hit Kizaru in a state where he's 'normal' because he's a logia, it'll go through him no matter what, unless you use haki.

Neither Kizaru nor Enel has shown any proof of being about to use haki, so don't even try to argue in that direction.

There, now stop using stupid arguments that's not only pointless but also entirely unfounded.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:18 AM   #315 (permalink)
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Okay, enough with being polite.

Logias cannot be hit by physical attacks. Period. It's got nothing to do with whether you hit them unaware or not, you cannot hit Kizaru in a state where he's 'normal' because he's a logia, it'll go through him no matter what, unless you use haki.

Neither Kizaru nor Enel has shown any proof of being about to use haki, so don't even try to argue in that direction.

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Old 07-05-2009, 02:24 AM   #316 (permalink)
 
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Okay, enough with being polite.

Logias cannot be hit by physical attacks. Period. It's got nothing to do with whether you hit them unaware or not, you cannot hit Kizaru in a state where he's 'normal' because he's a logia, it'll go through him no matter what, unless you use haki.

Neither Kizaru nor Enel has shown any proof of being about to use haki, so don't even try to argue in that direction.

There, now stop using stupid arguments that's not only pointless but also entirely unfounded.
actually you can hit a logia type in their normal state try to remember Marshall D. Teach...
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Blackbeard is the only exception to that, he has to take every attack thrown at him
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:38 AM   #318 (permalink)
 
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Blackbeard is the only exception to that, he has to take every attack thrown at him
yeah BB ability is truly risky... Is BB has the D will also??? hmmm... if he does his a dangerous man...
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:10 AM   #319 (permalink)
 
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Logias cannot be hit by physical attacks. Period. It's got nothing to do with whether you hit them unaware or not, you cannot hit Kizaru in a state where he's 'normal' because he's a logia, it'll go through him no matter what, unless you use haki.
I think they have to master their ability to a certain point to be like that. I know you say comic relief, but I say training. Luffy did catch Ace and Smoker off guard and put them through a wall. Now I don't think this applies with Enel and Kizaru because they both probably mastered theirs. I do think that people who haven't mastered their fruit have an 'off' mode because otherwise Ace would burn whatever he touches.
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I think they have to master their ability to a certain point to be like that. I know you say comic relief, but I say training. Luffy did catch Ace and Smoker off guard and put them through a wall. Now I don't think this applies with Enel and Kizaru because they both probably mastered theirs. I do think that people who haven't mastered their fruit have an 'off' mode because otherwise Ace would burn whatever he touches.
this is the first time i believe in Vincent lol... after using my brain and thinking hard i concluded that logia can be in normal state... i mean if logia type cant return to their normal state. how can they eat or drink. for example if crocodile cant make his body normal he cant touch solid object because he was sand. also how can ace digest his food if his body was made of fire and no stomach at all? it is said that logia ablities in to pass through physical attacks so it was just an ability not their real body. but for BB its execption his body will always be normal.
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