Enel or Kizaru ?

Originally Posted by yoahl

hmmm you mean wiki is just a speculation? it is based on anime and manga.

Please shut it. You're not doing your side any favors with your horrible English skills and even worse logic. Mind you the horrible logic seems like its spawning from the fact that you don't fully comprehend the words you're using so it's forgivable.

Enel can't win but on the same token Kizaru can't win either. This battle will boil down to who dies of starvation/lack of sleep/thirst first because their elements can't destroy one another and because of their DF types their normal bodies will simply pass through each other. To pretend otherwise is stupid since even if Kizaru is faster all that means is he's going to shoot a laser beam through Enel who will be unaffected faster and on the same token that means even if Enel's DF gives him the ultimate offense and defense at the same time it wont matter becasue you can't electrocute light.

[Sigart]

DIV, you're my hero!

Originally Posted by yoahl

this is the first time i believe in Vincent lol... after using my brain and thinking hard i concluded that logia can be in normal state... i mean if logia type cant return to their normal state. how can they eat or drink. for example if crocodile cant make his body normal he cant touch solid object because he was sand. also how can ace digest his food if his body was made of fire and no stomach at all? it is said that logia ablities in to pass through physical attacks so it was just an ability not their real body. but for BB its execption his body will always be normal.

You saying that you just have to hit a logia when he's eating? Because then that'd be the same for Enel and Kizaru.

[SSJ5]

Anyone who trys to bring crap like that into this battle fails. Kizaru has a light sword and therfore wins. =D

[Sigart]

Which reminds me that I forgot to say that the gold reflecting light doesn't work either. Kizaru got a light sabre! How cool is that?!

[Vincent1875]

Originally Posted by SSJ5

Anyone who trys to bring crap like that into this battle fails. Kizaru has a light sword and therfore wins. =D

He has a point. Steel is just as reflective as gold and Kizaru can swordfight without his sword blasting away. So the gold theory is moot as well.

Enel can't win but on the same token Kizaru can't win either. This battle will boil down to who dies of starvation/lack of sleep/thirst first because their elements can't destroy one another and because of their DF types their normal bodies will simply pass through each other. To pretend otherwise is stupid since even if Kizaru is faster all that means is he's going to shoot a laser beam through Enel who will be unaffected faster and on the same token that means even if Enel's DF gives him the ultimate offense and defense at the same time it wont matter becasue you can't electrocute light.

Yeah if you put them on an empty plain the fight will probably last till one starves to death or something like that, but for the sake of the argument let's say they're in a city with all the things a city has. They can use their environment in the fight, and that'll give it an ending.

Originally Posted by yoahl

hmmm you mean wiki is just a speculation? it is based on anime and manga.

I mean that post was speculation. Yes, it's based off of One Piece but that doesn't make it right. Oda himself isn't editing stuff on there so if they write stuff like Maxim is complex it's speculation because they don't know for sure when they write it. They're assuming Maxim is complex which you accepted as fact and put on a list of reasons you think Enel's a genius.

[yoahl]

Originally Posted by D.I.Y_Death

Please shut it. You're not doing your side any favors with your horrible English skills and even worse logic. Mind you the horrible logic seems like its spawning from the fact that you don't fully comprehend the words you're using so it's forgivable.

Enel can't win but on the same token Kizaru can't win either. This battle will boil down to who dies of starvation/lack of sleep/thirst first because their elements can't destroy one another and because of their DF types their normal bodies will simply pass through each other. To pretend otherwise is stupid since even if Kizaru is faster all that means is he's going to shoot a laser beam through Enel who will be unaffected faster and on the same token that means even if Enel's DF gives him the ultimate offense and defense at the same time it wont matter becasue you can't electrocute light.

dont be cocky i dont care about my grammar or my english. im just typing fast as i can so sometime i spell wwords wrong. so its none of your business. you have no right to insult me. im just basing my logic on what i see in anime and manga. we are here to debate not to insult if your keep insulting me then i quit this forum. Im done!

Originally Posted by Sigart

DIV, you're my hero!


You saying that you just have to hit a logia when he's eating? Because then that'd be the same for Enel and Kizaru.

you can hit logia type if they are not aware. vincent said that he saw luffy hit smoke and ace.

[yoahl]

Originally Posted by Vincent1875

He has a point. Steel is just as reflective as gold and Kizaru can swordfight without his sword blasting away. So the gold theory is moot as well.

Yeah if you put them on an empty plain the fight will probably last till one starves to death or something like that, but for the sake of the argument let's say they're in a city with all the things a city has. They can use their environment in the fight, and that'll give it an ending.



I mean that post was speculation. Yes, it's based off of One Piece but that doesn't make it right. Oda himself isn't editing stuff on there so if they write stuff like Maxim is complex it's speculation because they don't know for sure when they write it. They're assuming Maxim is complex which you accepted as fact and put on a list of reasons you think Enel's a genius.

I know not all metalic things can reflect light. so search the web. it is said their that gold has the capabilities to reflect light. also i bet enel; can produce lightning sword. if your saying that wiki is just an speculation so it also that kizaru speed is just speculation?

[SSJ5]

My point was that you can't bring logic from this world into One Piece, or any other Anime/Manga. Oda's Light may not be the same as this worlds Light.

[yoahl]

Originally Posted by SSJ5

My point was that you can't bring logic from this world into One Piece, or any other Anime/Manga. Oda's Light may not be the same as this worlds Light.

im quiting this forum sorry. bye!

[Vincent1875]

I know not all metalic things can reflect light. so search the web. it is said their that gold has the capabilities to reflect light. also i bet enel; can produce lightning sword. if your saying that wiki is just an speculation so it also that kizaru speed is just speculation?

Kizaru actually said he could move at light speed. No wiki is involved. I also don't need to look 2 feet to see that steel is just as reflective as gold. Those 'some metals' are not important in this argument as he's using steel. If Kizaru can use his lightsword to attack a steel sword then we can't say gold will reflect his attacks.