Ishda vs. Chad

[Ion420]

I would have to go with Ishida, he could beat chad with his eyes closed.

[Whewt22]

Originally Posted by SSJ5

Yeah, I'm sure he could still one-shot Mayuri -.- He was stronger with the Glove, his new bow fires 10,000 useless arrows.

The glove snap was a limit for anyones power- omnipotent.
It was a reshi dominant form. I wouldn't doubt his ability to beat Aizen with the glove snapped.

Its having no limit to his attacks, he was using the spirit particles around him and turning them into his stength- "complete dominance." Can't really compare that with anything. If your going to compare his power, start with the first episodes to now, hes no doubtly gotten alot more powerful.

[SynergY]

Interesting match up. Can't really decide, but as a dedicated fanboy, I voted for Chad nonetheless.

[gravion17]

Chad's not weak....I think every one here is underestimating him...we haven't really seen the full extent of Chad's power! I still say that he is holding back his OMPH due to that promise he made to his grandpa...remember, his power is Hollow in nature, there is much strength in the Dark side...

[spidii]

People are seriously underestimating Chad. Ishida is pathetic and whiny, there's no way he could beat any captain with his power now. Chad has improved in huge bounds and by every means is stronger than Ishida. Ishidas arrows would be useless against Chad's shield. And Chad has also increased his speed, he may not be faster than Ishida, but he can keep up I'm sure.

[akatsuki16]

Your forgetting Ishida has Steele Schneider which could cut an arrancars skin so I'm sure even if his bows would be blocked by Chad's shield. which I doubt they could because he can shoot over 1,000 arrows out of them. His sword would be more than enough to take him at close range.

[SSJ5]

Originally Posted by Whewt22

The glove snap was a limit for anyones power- omnipotent.
It was a reshi dominant form. I wouldn't doubt his ability to beat Aizen with the glove snapped.

Its having no limit to his attacks, he was using the spirit particles around him and turning them into his stength- "complete dominance." Can't really compare that with anything. If your going to compare his power, start with the first episodes to now, hes no doubtly gotten alot more powerful.

I agree, he could only do that once, but it was still his power. He could never do anything close to hat now. Ishida's power was probably at it's strongest in SS, but he does the same exact thing with his new bow. I don't see how anyone can call him stronger now.

Chad has gotten so much stronger it is just unbelievable. His power is at least that of a Captain Class Shinigami. He has everyting Ishida has, and more

[SynergY]

Originally Posted by SSJ5

I agree, he could only do that once, but it was still his power. He could never do anything close to hat now. Ishida's power was probably at it's strongest in SS, but he does the same exact thing with his new bow. I don't see how anyone can call him stronger now.

Chad has gotten so much stronger it is just unbelievable. His power is at least that of a Captain Class Shinigami. He has everyting Ishida has, and more

"His power is at least that of a Captain Class Shinigami."

Definitely not. He's damn far from it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a Captain would not go down with a few hits from an Espada.

Ishida is much stronger than he was back then. It was not his power, it was a power that the glove's seal, once broken, gave him. You also fail to understand that his enemies are stronger than they were in Soul Society back then.

[SSJ5]

Originally Posted by SynergY

"His power is at least that of a Captain Class Shinigami."

Definitely not. He's damn far from it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a Captain would not go down with a few hits from an Espada.

Ishida is much stronger than he was back then. It was not his power, it was a power that the glove's seal, once broken, gave him. You also fail to understand that his enemies are stronger than they were in Soul Society back then.

No way, Chad is at least low-tier Captain Class. That's just what I believe, there is no way to prove it or disprove it. We've seen him fight with the new arm's once, and he completely owned the person he was fighting with basically no trouble at all.

From what we have seen so far the Espada where not as strong as everyone made them out to be, they have all been defeated by a Captain. (I am excluding the top 4 from anything that I say)Ishida fought on the same level as Mayuri before he released the power of the glove, he was stronger back then. I don't see how you or anyone else can deny that.

Let's forget the power of the Glove after it is broken; he was still on a Lt. level or higher(not Captain) And the enemies we have seen so far are absolutely not stronger than the ones in SS. Mayuri completely destroyed Sayzel, guess who Ishida beat while in SS........Mayuri.

[Whewt22]

Not to mention Ishidas IQ compared to Chads is like comparing a mouse to T-rex in size.
Get real, he has all the essentials, and is his own powersource. He has far more abilities and techniques to keep himself so far ahead of Chad it's ridiclous. I think you need a refresher on Ishidas abilities.

Although I must agree Chad is on a low captain level. Maybe Ikkaku level, vice captain with perks. But Ishida is in a different leauge. And you are completely wrong, Ishida was not stronger in SS. People seem to make this assumption that captains can't improve because their already at captain status, but that's obviously incorrect.

I agree with Synergy the opponent level has stepped up beyond belief. And Ishidas been doing this since he was a child, and has been trained like no other, Chad doesn't even know what his powers do.