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Old 07-20-2009, 01:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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~~ I know it's a long topic, but I got some really interesting theories to discuss in here ~~



I've been thinking a lot about every single detail in that chapter, in the first pages, where Oda is showing us how people are talking about the war and about Whitebeard, we can see some people who kind of not fitting in these places, and they are always staring like eavesdropping on anyone who's talking about the war.

South Blue: The girl in the back, its obvious that she is listening to discussion.
East Blue: The guy in the back who's doing nothing. Or maybe the girl who's wearin a black shirt like the girl from South Blue.
North Blue: Come on, the guy who's drinking coffee is suspicious >.>
West Blue: In the bar, the guy who has two swords.
Grand Line: The man in the back next to the children, i just hope he's not thinking something sick >.>

anyway, it might be stupid, but I have this feelings that they weren't there for no reason, they might be some spy revolutionaries Dragon has sent them to countries that are yet to be under the World Government.


Anyway, what concerns me the most is, and everyone of course is Gol D. Ace relation with Monkey D. Luffy, since they aren't from the same mom, or dad, and that Roger told Garp to take care of his child after he passes. Till now everyone assumed that Luffy doesn't know about Ace not being his blood-related brother, we just can't make this assumption; there is a chance that Luffy might know, and yet he still consider him as a brother no matter what, for all the good times they had in the past together.

About Ace's mom, and how she managed to keep her child for 20 months. NO there can't be a devil fruit that would do that, it would be STUPID. but if we go back little bit in the story let us try and remember who knows the pirate king Gol D. Roger well?

Shanks?: of course he know him pretty well he was his captain in the end, we're not sure though if he know about this information.
Buggy?: same as Shanks.
hmm,, many names would be mentioned, but few might remember one of the oldest characters in One Piece, one who might have the knowledge and All What It Takes to do what such a dangerous trick.

Yup, she was the first one in the story of One Piece to address Gold Roger by his real name Gol D. Roger, Doctor Kureha..

right after they finished telling Dalton about Ace asking about Luffy, she smiled and asked Dalton about Gol D. Roger, he replied by if she means Gold Roger, she smiled again like as if she know him REALLY well, " I SEE. NOW, THEY CALL HIM GOLD ROGER" and the said " THE WILL OF D." " IS STILL ALIVE?" ..

We can come to two conclusions here:

First one: That she might be Portgas D. Rouge her self, and that she just acted dead using some kind of medicine. I think the hair of Portgas D. Rouge wen Sengoku mentioned her looks like Kureha. But that would mean that Roger have sex with a REALLY OLD lady,, lol,, he probably was drunk since he drinks a lot as that guy from the bar in Lougetown >.> ..

Second conclusion: that she really was a really REALLY close friend of either Roger or Portgas D. Rouge, and she was the one who did the trick to Rouge, and she might even be the one who there when Ace saw the light for the first time.


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Also one thing I noticed, why do they call every D by his full name but when it comes to Gol .D Roger they just say Gold Roger, I mean for sure Senguko knows his real name and so does other "important people", but it seems as if Senguko doesn't want anyone to know of the name Gol D. Roger for a reason. or that he might know about The Will of D. but he's trying to hide it as hard as he can. I guess it would be matter of time till he turn on Monkey D. Garp, who I guess is revolutionary himself ( Chapter 546 cover page) that guy is wearing just like Garp, except that he is wearing a giraffe,, maybe its kind of a special team within the revolutionary army.

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I know I've written a lot, but I just can't stop reading and watching old episodes and chapters,,

I hope u guys don't get bored of all what I wrote, it's pretty long but, 20 pages of a One Piece chapter takes like 30 minutes of my time haha, i just have to put more concentration in them than my college books. >.>
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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cool man your theories sound very logical!

I think Kureha is a friend of Rouge not Rouge herself and she helped her keeping Ace 20 months in her belly

and I think luffy does know that Ace is not his biological brother 'cause it's possible that he asked ace about his first name(even though luffy doesn't care about a matter like that)

you sure went too damn deep into this chapter

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Old 07-20-2009, 01:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Gol+D=Gold
Monkey+D=Monkeyd
Jaguar+D=jaguard

Gold roger's is the only one that makes sense
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Default Re: some theories after Chapter 550 (SPOILERS FROM MANGA)

Even if Luffy doesn't know atm that Ace isn't his biological brother and learns this now in Marinford, it won't make a difference. He will still consider him as a brother since they grew up together as brothers.

The thing about Kureha is interesting. And as you said I think its more possible she is not Ace's mother, and she just knew Roger and Rouge and had something to do with her pregnancy being a doctor and all.

Connecting Garp with that girraffe hat and the other one is wearing a hat who looks like a rat/mouse revolutionaries is interesting indead :O
And I'd like to add that we've seen A LOT of Iva's okama revolutionaries wear animal hats. There really might be something there.
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so how is garp a revoloutionary, when hes been a marine since before his son, Dragon started the revolutionary ?
the hat idea means you really looked into this, never would of payed attention myself, but that just makes no sense to me...

unless there was like a wierd plot twist, and garp was the actual leader of the revolutionary who had his son play the role :/
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Since Roger(who was his friend) found out the truth about the Void Century, and Dragon probably knows it too, one of them shared the info with Garp to know the truth, and made him join the revolutionary army, by keeping his position as an insider? oO
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oh but why was he wearing that hat in front of people?, it will be suspicious and risky! I think it's just a coincidence, but yet there is a possibility of him being a secret revolutionary army member or maybe the founder! who can understand Oda's way of thinking XD
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oh but why was he wearing that hat in front of people?, it will be suspicious and risky! I think it's just a coincidence, but yet there is a possibility of him being a secret revolutionary army member or maybe the founder! who can understand Oda's way of thinking XD
this is why making theories is so hard for OP...I mean who would of guessed Ace was rogers son ?
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I find the theory that Kureha helped Rouge very interesting and possible. I like it.

I don't think it will matter any to Luffy whether him and Ace are of the same blood. As you might remember, he wasn't even aware that he ahd a dad himself, blood bonds are hardly what counts for him.
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nice theory, one of the few that actually make sense
and it sounds pretty oda-ish, we'll see
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