Requiem for the Phantom,Last episode

[Ceol]

I opened this thread so that we can discuss the finale of that awesome anime.I didnt liked the ending 2 be honest.The part that annoyed me the most was that i didnt understand what actually happened at the end.Still it was a wonderfull anime and i am sad that it ended like that

[joeboi112]

is the ep 26 subbed then?

[Ceol]

No but u can see the end anyway Joe.

[joeboi112]

no thanks i dont think theres anypoint in watching it twice for the sake of waiting

[DeathView]

it's ending .. damn never knew ... will there be a 2nd season ?

they gotta make a new long running anime .. I hate finally starting to like them and then they end

[Trueblade]

This was my take on the ending:

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Ok here's what I think happened in the end of phantom...Although they show what Reji and Elen are both thinking at the same time...they're not actually thinking those thoughts at the same time. First, Reji is obviously planning on living out the rest of their lives b/c he says he eventually wants to see her true smile someday. However, his optimistic future with Elen is cut short by a member of Inferno. I believe Inferno killed him while the cart drove by b/c earlier Inferno head guy says something like "what must be done, must be done." The chances of it being Shiga are pretty slim b/c although Shiga was planning on killing him for revenge, chances are he gave up on that. Only Inferno would pursue their targets for 6 months I think. Shiga really wasn't that determined. As for the theory about it being Elen who killed him...that's ridiculously unlikely if you think about it. I mean, Elen cared for him alot. She even killed Scythe to be with him. If she wanted to kill him should would've done that a long time ago, but she chose a future with him instead. Not only that, but the cart passed behind Reji. Elen was in front of him...she wouldn't have shot him in the front while a traveler is passing by lol. So what happens when she turns around and finds out Reji's dead? She kills herself. Her future with him is no more, but she feels satisfied enough with the time spent with him, hence the smile, a feeling of relief in the end. Then she eats the flower pedal, which has some kind of poisonous effect, and she dies. So it seems confusing b/c it shows what Reji's thinking before he dies what Elen is thinking after he dies..at the same time. But there you have it. The fully explained ending. This was just my personal take on it so feel free to come up with your own ending if you don't feel mine is right. Anyways, hope this helps

[Ceol]

Trueblade that must be the truth.But why the hell is Elen is laughing at the end? :S Any1 noticed that after Cals death,Reiji puts her clock near her hands,CLOSED.At the next episode its open and it actually helps him 2 kill 1 of the 6 sisters.Plus i dont see her blood.lol!!!To be honest i am thinking that the end is Reiji survives the 1 shot,cause at the past he got 3 or 4 bullets,from Scythe and he still lived and Cal is also alive.lol!What a dreamer...

Originally Posted by Trueblade

This was my take on the ending:

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Ok here's what I think happened in the end of phantom...Although they show what Reji and Elen are both thinking at the same time...they're not actually thinking those thoughts at the same time. First, Reji is obviously planning on living out the rest of their lives b/c he says he eventually wants to see her true smile someday. However, his optimistic future with Elen is cut short by a member of Inferno. I believe Inferno killed him while the cart drove by b/c earlier Inferno head guy says something like "what must be done, must be done." The chances of it being Shiga are pretty slim b/c although Shiga was planning on killing him for revenge, chances are he gave up on that. Only Inferno would pursue their targets for 6 months I think. Shiga really wasn't that determined. As for the theory about it being Elen who killed him...that's ridiculously unlikely if you think about it. I mean, Elen cared for him alot. She even killed Scythe to be with him. If she wanted to kill him should would've done that a long time ago, but she chose a future with him instead. Not only that, but the cart passed behind Reji. Elen was in front of him...she wouldn't have shot him in the front while a traveler is passing by lol. So what happens when she turns around and finds out Reji's dead? She kills herself. Her future with him is no more, but she feels satisfied enough with the time spent with him, hence the smile, a feeling of relief in the end. Then she eats the flower pedal, which has some kind of poisonous effect, and she dies. So it seems confusing b/c it shows what Reji's thinking before he dies what Elen is thinking after he dies..at the same time. But there you have it. The fully explained ending. This was just my personal take on it so feel free to come up with your own ending if you don't feel mine is right. Anyways, hope this helps

I agree with TrueBlade but i dont remember seeing Elen or should I say Ulan eating the flower lol and I got to say that I am always depressed whenevr an amazing anime show finishes. (T.T)

[Chi-Ro]

I've actually gone over this a few times with people myself because no one seems to understand the ending very well. So here's the most logical ending, with the most evidence to back it up (obviously my opinion.

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First off, forget the cart driver was ever there. He has no actual relevance on the ending. Now please forgive me, it's been quite some time since it ended and I've forgotten a bit since then so bare with me.

Now we start with both of them sitting there thinking about the past and the future. Elen's only purpose for living was to find that bit of her past, she clearly implies at the end that she had found it. Reiji's only remaining purpose in life was to see Elen smile. Not her normal fake smile but her real true smile. In the end both of their final wishes are met. All through the show you see that they very literally hate themselves for what they do, but see it as having no option but to kill or be killed. The only reason they continue living is for these purposes (which obviously change through the show) otherwise at least in Reiji's case he would've killed himself a long time ago.

Now that we have that clear we move on to what actually happened. Remember they've both fulfilled their only remaining purpose in life and are very satisfied with how it went. So what happened is Elen shot Reiji (it sounds stupid but it's really not), It was essentially a mutually agreed upon ending of both their lives, while they had nothing left to live for. In Japanese culture, or at least in anime, this isn't such a amazingly crazy thing to do. After Shooting Reiji, Elen proceeded to poison herself by eating the peddle of the flower.

Now on to a bit of how I come to this conclusion over a murder.

First off Reiji is the best assassin in the world, there is no doubt about this at all. The only person who could contest that fact would be Elen. So if that's the case how did he just let some random inferno assassin manage to kill him? And do you really think he wouldn't have known they were there? Just because they killed scythe doesn't mean they let their guard down at all. They're still the best of the best of the best. Also, if he was murdered, why didn't Elen do anything about it? And why wouldn't they have killed her too? She wasn't shot, there was only one bullet from one gun fired as you can hear and see from the shell. If not killed wouldn't she jump to action and avenge Reiji's death? Next there's the bullet shell. While this is more of an opinion than anything else if it was the cart driver the shell would've been either in the cart or on/beside the road. However the shell was in the grass and appeared to be right by where they had been. Implying the gun was shot from right in that area. Then there's the flower. We see before it all happens that this flower has all its pedals. But after, just before Elen lays down motionless you see a single peddle is missing from it. This leads you to believe it had poison in it like many flowers do. Elen would surely have known this fact as a top assassin, and after shooting Reiji she would eat the peddle and die as well.

Both of their lives ended happily, and that being the fact I believe they ended the anime well.

Anyway, that's a very well thought through opinion of the ending with multiple people working together gathering all the points and evidence. If you read the comments on the last episode you'll see most of that as people are first thinking it through (me being one of these people). It was the most accepted ending at the time and still makes the most logical since now.

Other opinions or points to help prove or disprove this are more than welcome, however things like

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”She didn't kill him, that's stupid!”

are pointless and hold no ground either way. If you don't agree with me please give me a good reason why as I would like to be sure of the 100% truth just as much as anyone else.

Sorry for the epically long post but as someone who watched this from day one and loved it so much, I have a lot to say.

Edit:

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Also remember, Elen killing Reiji isn't her murdering him, it's better put as suicide on his part. She wasn't killing him to kill him like Trueblade was talking about, she killed him because both of their lives were fulfilled, and it was a mutually agreed upon outcome. Also, the anime points out time and time again, by the second half Reiji was stronger than Elen and she couldn't have just killed him. Anyway, his post makes a bit of since (even without any real evidence backing it as mine does) but in the end we always just come back to one clear fact. Reiji is the best. No inferno assassin or any assassin for that matter could have just killed him without even a fight like that. And if they did Elen would have gotten revenge, not killed herself. Following what I've been saying, if someone killed Reiji she would very clearly have purpose for living again, and that would be to kill them. Killing herself after something like that just doesn't fit her character or the story very well.

Anyway I think we can all agree that they should have made the ending more clear...

[shortdrumz]

I tend to go with chi-Ros explanation. When I first watched I had figured it was the cart driver but that being said Elen smiling at the end didn't make sense.

Renji was either liberated from his assasin state and missed the fact of the cart driver assassination and elen knew it was coming, thus smiling that renji was liberated from his situation. Or, we see her after killing him, either way its not a big difference to me. They die having completed what they wanted to