Shinji Hirako Discussion (Spoilers)

[Balling like a fool]

Originally Posted by Runne666

not true. the shinigami absorb spirit particles at a slower rate. that's how rukia recovered quicker in SS then she does in the real world. it can get your reiatsu up and often people store it. so logically, if there are more and denser Spirit particles in HM, then Aizen could replenish and store reiatsu quicker.

she recovered quickly in SS because a soul is made of spirit particles, but the spirit particles didnt make her reiatsu any greater.

also, the real reson for her recovering quickly in SS is because she was finally out of the reaitsu draining gigai she had been in on earth, she just didnt know that.


also, i think the idea of building up reiatsu is ridiculous. if that were the case, ganju could never release any reiatsu, and in a few hundred years, he could kill yamamoto.

[Runne666]

Originally Posted by Balling like a fool

she recovered quickly in SS because a soul is made of spirit particles, but the spirit particles didnt make her reiatsu any greater.

also, the real reson for her recovering quickly in SS is because she was finally out of the reaitsu draining gigai she had been in on earth, she just didnt know that.


also, i think the idea of building up reiatsu is ridiculous. if that were the case, ganju could never release any reiatsu, and in a few hundred years, he could kill yamamoto.

again not true. Ganju isn't a shinigami, automatically giving the advantage to the veteran Yamamoto. and for rukia, you just admitted that her reiatsu recovered while she was in SS. the reason it recovered quicker then it would have in the real world (gigai or not) is because of the excess SP in SS.

[Whewt22]

Ok I can't find the page, i'll look later... What the hell? She would of recovered reguardless of Soul society or not. Ganju has nothing to do with Yamamoto. Every soul absorbs spirit particles like Rune says, but, they do not store them.

[Whewt22]

I can't just store extra energy, I just have my energy.. I exert it at will conserving it until I need more of it.

Ok found the page that says HM is more dense which is more suited for people like Quincy and Chad whos attacks are SOLEY based on spirit particles. Reguardless if shinigami can absorb them or not, they just replenish the ones used up. I've never heard or seen anything dealing with "storing spiritual pressure".

[Runne666]

Originally Posted by Whewt22

Ok I can't find the page, i'll look later... What the hell? She would of recovered reguardless of Soul society or not. Ganju has nothing to do with Yamamoto. Every soul absorbs spirit particles like Rune says, but, they do not store them.

yes, but she recovered faster in SS then she ever could have in the real world, gigai or not. and when they absorb the spirit particles, they convert them into their own power. which means that you could store up your power. it's like when Ichigo broke in to los Nochas to save orihime, he didn't want to use his hollow or his bankai because he was saving up his energy for the fight with the espada.

[Whewt22]

Saving it up, and storing it are completley different things in this situation.

[Runne666]

Originally Posted by Whewt22

Saving it up, and storing it are completley different things in this situation.

ehh, whatev. it was just a theory anyways.

[Whewt22]

Yea im just saying theres no comparison to Ichigo saving his power to fight. To Aizen whos creating arrancar regularly, and keeping the espada in check with it. Hes not trying to save it, it doesn't seem like it even possible to store up SP, but you can save what you have.
If Ichigo could store up SP, he wouldn't be worried about using his powers. He could just go full strength, and the dense particles would fill him back up again, according to your theory.

[drzorba]

I think he is mixing bleach up with a different anime or something. You don't store SP. Once you used your power you would be back to square one if that were the case. Reading those last few pages made my head hurt. The convo started out interesting then headed way down hill.

[Balling like a fool]

Originally Posted by Runne666

again not true. Ganju isn't a shinigami, automatically giving the advantage to the veteran Yamamoto. and for rukia, you just admitted that her reiatsu recovered while she was in SS. the reason it recovered quicker then it would have in the real world (gigai or not) is because of the excess SP in SS.

it doesnt matter if it he is a shinigami, he is a soul with reiatsu, and it was a far-fetched example. i was making a point.

and i said that her reiatsu recovered because she wasnt in a gigai that was draining it anymore...

you seem to be viewing reiatsu as a form of currency, that can be saved up, and spent on attacks.

reiatsu is your souls energy, your soul only has so much, and thet amount cant be increased or decreased, except possibly through hollowfication. the amount that you are able to access however, can be increased through training and whatnot.

also, its not like mana or something in an RPG, you dont use it up. have you ever heard anyone in bleach say "oh snaps, im out of reiatsu!" ?
reiatsu leaks out with your attacks, sure, but it isnt like its a base mana cost or anything, you arent actually "losing" reaitsu every time you use cero or something, i think its more like using those attacks exhausts your soul, just like jumping up and down exhausts a body.
i think reiatsu is more like the actual strength of a soul, and given that its a spiritual strength, rather than physical, it can be felt by others, and of course someone with more reiatsu (a stronger soul) wont get exhausted as fast, but its not like reiatsu is a form of currency.

your thinking of reiatsu as something like chakra in naruto, when its really something more like power level in DBZ, imo.