Help needed...

[FireclawX]

Ok so ive finally succumbed to all of your comments, i will build my own computer instead of buying one from amazon like i had planned to before...
so i have this list of parts, and id like to know what you guys think. my budget is arround 900 dollars (us)
plz tell me if you suggest a better part, or know of a compatibility issue with some of the parts i have...

also about the graphics card: i have a GeForce GTX 350 on one of my old computers and wanna crossfire (i think thats whats its called) with the one ive put on my list, can someone please tell me if thats even possible and if so then how many watts would i need on a power supply thanks

LIST OF PARTS
Corsair Vengeance 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ8GX3M2X1600C8B)
Corsair Obsidian Series 650D Mid-Tower Case
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

[kamina777]

Originally Posted by FireclawX

also about the graphics card: i have a GeForce GTX 350 on one of my old computers and wanna crossfire (i think thats whats its called) with the one ive put on my list, can someone please tell me if thats even possible and if so then how many watts would i need on a power supply thanks

Yeah it's possible but totally useless because you will limit the performance of the new card to the performance of the old one.

If you can, get an I7-2500 or better. The AMD is old, very noisy and weaker than its Intel equivalent.

[thammuz]

If you really want to save as much money and power, the AMD will do the part. (Even though those new Ivy Bridges do well in the power department)

If you'd like... My build from November/January: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...px?ID=15429891

Not sure if you can view... Since it is my account viewing it. I have had no problems running any games on their highest settings or any problems watching 1080p video.

(I wish the Antec Three Hundred was on sale when I ordered everything, but it wasn't and the Rosewill one I got works without any issue)
You could save a few dollars by not getting the monitor, mouse, sound card (I ended up RMAing it and getting credit back), thermal compound, or CPU fan (i5-2500k came with both).

[KageNoKensai]

I agree with kamina. Even if it's a Phenom II X4, it's Intel counterpart can probably perform better. If you want to get Intel, go for Ivy Bridge or newer models with thinner nanometer tech. They're getting close to the efficient power management of ARM-based chips that run a lot of personal computing devices.

I would advise against crossfiring (not sure if that's what it's called too, lol) if you don't have a specific reason for it other than it theoretically boosts graphics performance and rendering. It's never that simple, and there's always something in exchange.

I wanted to put together a new PC for myself a few months ago. It seems finding a dual socket mobo is harder than I thought. I wanted to stick two i5's or i7's in there, like my old dual socket mobo that ran 2 dual core Xeons. Oh well. Sometime soon, perhaps.

[FireclawX]

wow thanks everyone your advice is much appreaciated... personally id like to get an intel as well seeing that its been proven to be better in a lot of places, but because of my budget restrains a i7 is a bit out of reach...

@kamina: thanks i didn't know that it would make the new graphics card preform as badly as the old one, ill just replace the GTX 560 with a 570.

@thammuz: thanks but i can't view it. i know that the amd comes with thermal paste as well as a fan, and i already have a monitor and mouse/keyboard :P
case wise can anyone suggest another that is a bit cheaper, if i can save 50$ on the case then i might upgrade the graphics card to a GTX 570

@kage: the intel quad core or just the normal i7? yea i think i wont crossfire and instead just upgrade the graphics card to the better GTX 570...

[Canadian Neko]

I really have no idea how much your casing/tower that you plan on getting will cost ...
when I built mine ..I got a "blade gaming" it has 3 fans built in ...does an excellent job on cooling things down....and yup go for Intel for your processors .... they have an added benefit many people don't bother saying much about ...they auto-protect themselves by shutting down if they begin to over heat

and as for extra storage the newer 1tb hard drives are dropping in price....I put all my anime series separate from my operating systems hard drive ...in case failure of the drive itself....oh and please remember to always back up your personal files...all drives fail in time ...with storage/data dvds/cds you will only loss the amount you put on any given dvd/cd.....this is VERY worth the money to do ....I can say that from experience

and for your multi-drive to burn your data and dvds/cds .... don't be fooled by all that super high speed stuff ..... go for some thing that can burn dvds at either x4 to x8 ...way less errors when burning...but does cost you a few extra minits time wise ...but worth it...

[KageNoKensai]

Definitely not the normal i7s. Some high GHz Dual Cores with a kick-ass FSB can match normal i7s.

But I'm not too sure which of the newest models are best.
I'm just assuming for the most part that the newest line of quad core i7s that use 32nm tech are getting better at power management and performance, coz in tablets and smartphones Intel is sporting Medfield chips which they intend to use to compete against ARM Cortex chips. I'm assuming they can adapt the architecture of the Medfiled for desktops.

[FireclawX]

Originally Posted by KageNoKensai

Definitely not the normal i7s. Some high GHz Dual Cores with a kick-ass FSB can match normal i7s.

But I'm not too sure which of the newest models are best.
I'm just assuming for the most part that the newest line of quad core i7s that use 32nm tech are getting better at power management and performance, coz in tablets and smartphones Intel is sporting Medfield chips which they intend to use to compete against ARM Cortex chips. I'm assuming they can adapt the architecture of the Medfiled for desktops.

i dont think that this has been implemented yet though, also i need to keep in mind my 900$ bugdet
BTW i edited the parts list up top in my original post so plz take a look
also can someone please suggest a good 750W PSU for under 100 dollars thanks

[O$NA]

this is just a bit abouve 100$
Amazon.com: XFX PRO750W Core Edition 80+ Bronze ATX 750 Energy Star Certified Power Supply - P1750SNLB9: Electronics

i sitll would go for an intel. if an i7 is too expensive go for a i5

[Canadian Neko]

Originally Posted by FireclawX

i dont think that this has been implemented yet though, also i need to keep in mind my 900$ bugdet
BTW i edited the parts list up top in my original post so plz take a look
also can someone please suggest a good 750W PSU for under 100 dollars thanks

power sources in general do run under 100$

I actually can't remember the name on mine....but I do remember it only cost about 75$ including tax

it too is "gaming" type of part (has a huge fan right across its lower half)...I went with some thing that can cool itself ...my "desktop" is to be used as a server in the future

please mind I am from Canada so there maybe huge differences in pricing ....my whole machine parts and labour only cost me about 850$ and that included 3 hard drives a primary 500gb and two secondary ones at 2tb each